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Sparknotes on Moment Skis 2011/2012

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PappaG
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Jib
carbon stringers for pop
tip and tail remain buttery soft
Length | 156, 166, 171, 176, 181
Dims | 111-86-111

Team
"hyper-stiff, ultra-fast version of the Jib for competition"
Length | 171, 176, 181
Dims | 111-86-111

Vice
mustache rocker for park and pipe
Length | 168, 178, 184
Dims | 110-83-105

Eldorado
Length | 166, 176, 182
Dims | 112-85-101

Tahoe
slight tip rockers
Length | 170, 180, 188
Dims | 121-96-112

Night Train
Length | 168, 178, 186
Dims | 140-123-135

Ghost Chant
twin rocker, flat underfoot, bamboo core, dead center mount, symmetrical design
Length| 176, 186
Dims | 139-124-139

PB&J
symmetrical flex and center mount for park
mustache rocker/camber for outside park
Length | 162, 172, 182, 188
Dims | 129-101-121

Belafonte
Length | 174, 182, 192
Dims | 135-106-124

Bibby Pro
stiffer than last year
Length | 174, 184, 190, 196
Dims | 143-116-134 @ 174, 184
Dims | 143-118-134 @ 190
Dims | 150-116-123 @ 196

Jaguar Shark
wider Belafonte
tip rocker
Length | 174, 182, 192
Dims | 143-116-129

Comi
Length | 182, 192 (swallowtail)
Dims | 160-135-145

Donner Party
Length | 186, 196
Dims | 135-140-137-130




For the ladies,

Hot Mess
twin rocker
Length | 146, 156, 166
Dims | 112-85-101

Sierra
female version of Tahoe
tip rocker
Length | 150, 160, 170
Dims | 117-92-108 @ 150, 160
Dims | 121-96-112 @ 170

Bela
female version of the Belafonte
Length | 152, 162, 172
Dims | 134-106-126

Reagan
female version of Night Train
Length | 158, 168
Dims | 133-116-128



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Jan 27 2011 11:29AM
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jca
Posts: 4162 - Karma: 6,261
the jag shark sounds like fun. ive never found my flat tailed 190 rubys to be too much in tight trees though, and im a pretty small guy.
Feb 7 2011 7:49PM
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kryptic
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PB&J Profile

Now i need a little help, im trying to decide between waiting for the PB&J's or get this years rockers. My worry is that the PB&J's might be a little too wide for me. I live in ottawa where we have tiny hills and shitty snow, i spend most of my days on hard pack lapping the park or fuckign around on groomers. It often gets pretty icy too. I go on a 2 ski trips every year to bigger hills in quebec where i get to ski tree's and powder (east coast powder tho) I usually just make do on my inavders because i cant really jusstify a bigger ski. This weekend though i did my first out of bounds tree skiing and found stashes of powder that my invaders just sucked in, this made me really want a wider ski.

Like i said though this barely ever happens, although i am graduating highschool this year and want to try and move out west or even further into quebec so i can continue to ski tree's (le massif). Im not too sure if this will ever happen, i can only hope it will. For the time being ill just be skiing icy groomers and park in the east.... so should i just get the rockers or keep the dream alive and get the PB&J's ( i should put in that i loooovve skiing tree's and im really hoping to make an attempt at making trips too bigger mountains on powder days and such)

btw im 5'6" 140

Feb 7 2011 10:40PM
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phishfood
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'da fuck, doesn't look like theres nearly as much tail rocker? so they're symetrical flex...so you'd centermount them, but the whole ski isn't symmetrical? why? and the rocker isn't symmetrical either?
i'm really liking the fact taht they come in 188 though
Feb 7 2011 11:41PM
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Canuker
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yea im also a little confused by this
Feb 8 2011 3:01PM
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Ghini
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Thanks!

Looking at this profile shot makes me think the flex isnt symetrical?? Anyone agrees? (just by looking at how thick the core is)

Feb 8 2011 3:06PM
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ThaLorax
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look at where the camber is. center mounting those would be weird as fuck. they're probably made for -2 or something like that.
Feb 8 2011 4:01PM
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PappaG
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Moment's catalog says "symmetrical flex". I was having too much fun on them to notice otherwise.
Feb 8 2011 7:30PM
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jca
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looks like the same rocker profile as the bibby.
Feb 8 2011 10:04PM
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griz_lee
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there is less tail rocker but mine are centermounted and they ski great
Feb 8 2011 11:06PM
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Tanner-D
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Getting the PB &Js for next year looks so sick. Probably going to replace my tahoes
Feb 9 2011 12:07AM
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BroBomb
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Agreed. I wish they were a little closer to symmetrical (personal hangup), but they're about as close to a 1 ski quiver as I think you can get.
Feb 9 2011 2:46PM
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Canuker
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i thought they were suposed to be cemetrical
Feb 9 2011 4:21PM
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Tanner-D
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If you look at how the pic is taken i think the camera skews the bottom's rocker
Feb 9 2011 11:05PM
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Legion
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not to mention that the skis arnt symmetrical in the first place... shouldn't make much of a difference. close enough that you wont easily notice, and it looks like it pairs well with the NEAR symmetrical sidecut
Feb 10 2011 2:09AM
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Canuker
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howd they ski switch
Feb 10 2011 10:12AM
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terrible_skier
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the graphic on the reno jibs are so sexy! reno jib 156 will be my ski next year!
Feb 10 2011 10:38AM
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Xanadoo
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how does moment measure? do their lengths tend to be what they say they are or do they run a little long?
Feb 10 2011 11:16AM
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PappaG
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If you measure from the height of the tip to the height of the tail with a taught tape measure, the actual length on nearly every pair I've owned (9 different models) was about 1-2cm shorter than the marketed length. This is how K2 measures and most companies measure material length which can be skewed because of rocker.
Feb 10 2011 11:29AM
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Xanadoo
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ok thanks
Feb 10 2011 11:55AM
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terrible_skier
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anyone have pictures for the reno jib bases?
Feb 10 2011 6:50PM
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sagesnow
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Just picked up a pair of rockers 178! super stoked to shred on em this weekend. im 5'8" though, think 178 was too much ski for me? haha
Feb 14 2011 9:41PM
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Kangbang
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Nah.
Feb 14 2011 9:42PM
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loganimlach
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should be perfect! because of the rocker, they ski a little short. i'm sure you'll be stoked on them!
Feb 14 2011 10:02PM
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Uncle_Remus
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so after skiing the vice at PC for a few days,i can say that they are super super light. and the early rise is kinda a trip to get used to they love to be on edge, and jibbing is amazing. however the rocker does make landing back seat or front seat for that matter, a potential over the handle bars. i would say this is moments answer to the halo. the tail seems small but handles fine riding switch. one of my favorite park skis i have ever ridden.
Feb 14 2011 11:34PM
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PappaG
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Jag Shark LTDs just arrived ... approved by soccer moms at a ski resort near you.

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Feb 16 2011 12:48PM
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Tanner-D
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Euro graphic?
Feb 17 2011 9:28AM
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PappaG
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Limited, soon to be mounted, and off for a maiden voyage this weekend.
Feb 17 2011 3:18PM
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jeremy.g
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so just got to test out a bunch of moments skis for next year and they are all fucking amazing.

pb & j would be an awesome all mt killer that can still shred the park up. really fun, bit stiffer and the rocker feels perfect.

the jib is still my favorite park ski personally. super fun, poppy and playful. and team would be an awesome alternative expecially if you are hitting some bigger jumps or are bigger.

the vice was really fun. if you want a park ski that will completely kill it in the park but still cruise around outside the park - this is the ski. real solid.

now i got to shred the ghost chants in about 6 inches of pow.



AMAZING. so fun, completely effortless, smeary, surfy. extremely agile especially in the trees and at slow speeds, crazy switch. if you are skiing a lot of fresh/trees/backwards get these fucking skis


the night trains were, however my favorite ski i rode. had a very similar feel to the g.c. surfy, smeary, but held up a bit better in more variable, cut up snow, with the ghost chants you had to be a lot more on your game goin through that stuff. but with a little more effective edge on the night train, killed it everywhere in all kinds of snow, amazingly fun to ride, soft playful, but still able to hold its own in some hairier shit.

if you are hucking cliffs 30+ ft and goin really fast i would check out the bibby, plowed through everything i threw at it, super stable and solid on landings.


any other questions hit me up and i can probably answer to some degree.

bottom line. GET. MOMENT.
Feb 18 2011 10:54AM
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loganimlach
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Feb 18 2011 12:09PM
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Bi-ShredinalGuy
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moment skiis are sick.. but they never seem to do very well in any reviews :(
Feb 18 2011 1:25PM
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sagesnow
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I've heard only good things about them. I don't know what your talking aboot.
Feb 18 2011 1:41PM
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PappaG
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Awesome reviews!

Glad you got the Ghost Chants in some snow suitable for them.
Feb 18 2011 2:40PM
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Tanner-D
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-Night Train and Bibby
Night trains are sick super floaty and poppy. Light like a feather. You can be shredding freshies pull a huge slash and keep your speed because they stay on top of the snow sideways. Overall very ggod for any fresh conditions but when it starts to get super chopped they can tire you out. That's where the Bibby's have the advantage over the nighttrain with the mustache rocker as in where the night trains don't have camber only cons to the bibby's is not quite as floaty as the night train but in most conditions the Bibby will make a better overall ski when there is not 2 feet of pow. Regardless the Bibby is still amazing in pow just night quite as floaty as the larger Night train.


-Tahoe
Super super fun ski doesn't get enough hype. Haven't skied it with the new front rocker but i'm sure it'll only make them more fun in powder. Great ski for nearly any conditions. With traditional camber and a waist of 96 it holds an edge in the hard pack yet can handle up to a foot of pow well. Super poppy and playful these skis can huck shit and since they are stiff they won't loop out. Overall great all mountain ski.


Hopefully going to ski the PB and Js soon so I'll do a lil write up on those
Feb 18 2011 7:49PM
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PappaG
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Got on the 182 Jag Sharks today while skiing a 1,400 vert line at 39 degrees with a top 400-foot section at 44*. The skis completely killed it and I'm amazed how well they did. Today was an all-time day and I more than stoked to have had the Jag Shark. Coming down through the lower apron that was affected by the sun, the tip rocker was perfect for keeping me from snagging the top slab layer while the flat tail lock my turns in. So much fun today.
Feb 19 2011 9:42PM
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PappaG
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Some helmet cam footy on the Jag Sharks:


Courtesy of Newschoolers.com
Feb 22 2011 2:27AM
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Kangbang
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Me jelly.
Feb 22 2011 2:35AM
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sander_h
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i skied the 196 bibby last week at the snowbasin on snow demo. SKI WAS FUCKING BADASS
Feb 22 2011 11:10AM
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sagesnow
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I just got this years rockers. fricken love em!
Feb 22 2011 7:55PM
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PappaG
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Got the Jag Sharks in 2-3' of fresh snow on Saturday down in Monarch. Absolutely love how surfy these skis are. Definitely a more medium flex when compared to the Bibby Pro, and they felt more playful and plane much easier at lower speeds.

Feb 28 2011 1:03AM
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Ghini
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Great nipple touching ;-)

Feb 28 2011 4:55AM
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Ghini
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bump for the greatest!
Mar 7 2011 8:40AM
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ianj
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Does anyone have pictures of the reno jib and the vice???
Mar 13 2011 10:16PM
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terrible_skier
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do want
Mar 14 2011 1:10AM
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Daoust
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any pics of next years outerwear from moment?
Mar 14 2011 1:17AM
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PappaG
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More stoke on the Jag Sharks:


North Couloir | Buffalo Mountain, CO | 12 March 2011
Mar 14 2011 11:39AM
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ianj
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was hoping for some topsheet shots and possibly side profile?
Mar 14 2011 11:43PM
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Steve-Brown
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im feeling either the night trains or the ghost chants...which ones more buttery?
Mar 15 2011 12:03AM
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Kangbang
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Ghost Chants.
Mar 15 2011 12:40AM
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mansfield
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I'm 6'2" 160-170 lbs depending on the season. Usually more like 170 in winter. Do I go for the 184 or 190 Bibby Pros? I heard Moment overstates the length, so does that make the 190 closer to 187-188? And the 183 more like a 181?
Mar 18 2011 2:44AM
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Kangbang
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190's. Moment's kinda ski shorter. My friends 169 Domains are the same length as my 176 Reno Jibs.
Mar 18 2011 2:47AM
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