These pants are BRAND NEW with tags 10-11 season, XL armada destroyers. These are pretty much as legit as pants get fully taped seams, dryrex 3L 20k waterpoof, riri aqua zips. I wish I could keep them but they are just too short for me. Also they are the Guide Lime color, which you can only get directly from Armada, so its pretty rare to see anyone else in these pants (i havent and i ski almost every day). So hit me up at skifatties503@hotmail.com if you are interested. I'm askin for $225 for these, they are $350 in stores.