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Kreations vs. Spk Pro

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joshua
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I'm deciding between these two boots. I know that the Spk Pro is obviously the better boot but is it really that much better than the Kreation? +K for help.
Dec 25 2010 9:38PM
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joshua
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Also is there any actual fit difference between the two?
Dec 25 2010 9:38PM
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Banane.
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The flex is not the same, thats all i know. And yea the pro have leather
Dec 25 2010 9:40PM
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andrew95
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this.
also i think the liner may be differnt?
Dec 25 2010 10:17PM
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.squirrely.
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which one has only two buckles?  because my friend has those and he gets crazy shin bang because they dont get tight enough
Dec 25 2010 10:20PM
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joshua
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Your friend gets shin bang from SPK's most likely b/c he has to thin legs for the spk fit, or he is in to big a size. It has nothing to do with the two buckle design.
Dec 25 2010 10:31PM
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stickerman
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i had the spk pro and after hiking rails for parts of the season the leather started to rip and tear off. since your ski would hit the leather when you pop the binding out. but get whatever fits.

if that made any sense.
Dec 25 2010 10:38PM
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joshua
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I'm trying to decide between this years Kreations, or Spk Pro's from a couple years back, the ones with brown leather. (Not sure what year.) Does anyone know what year that boot was and whether or not they have the shock absorbing stuff on the tongue like more recent years?
Dec 25 2010 10:40PM
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dylan.r.1080
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the pro is a much stiffer boot and has a drawstring on the liner. shin bang is not coming from the two buckle design.
Dec 25 2010 10:42PM
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JayDope
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better liner, drawstrings, and slightly stiffer, its gunna fit pretty much the same, the kreation is a POS
Dec 25 2010 10:48PM
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a_pla5tic_bag
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those brown an white spks are from the same year as the blue dumonts, the cap ones. i think
Dec 25 2010 10:52PM
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joshua
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Yeah I just figured out they are from 2008, and they do have the shock absorbing spoiler. Thanks for the help guys +K
Dec 25 2010 10:54PM
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Kreech
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also the spk pros have the soft toe, AND a lot more padding
Dec 25 2010 10:56PM
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RAYMOND
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the pro is just heavy get the kreation but if you decide to get the pro take the leather off looks ssoo sick
Dec 25 2010 11:40PM
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Kreech
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if you NEEED to go salomon, get the kaos, its the best of both worlds: soft toe, flex in between kreation and spk, and they still have lots of padding and they're not heavy and they dont have all that ugly leather
Dec 25 2010 11:44PM
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KevinC
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^yeah ive got the kaos and its pretty nice, better performance than the kreation but not quite as expensive as the pro
Dec 26 2010 12:32AM
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joshua
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I could care less about looks. I think I am going to get the SPK Pro b/c I can get a crazy deal on a pair.
Dec 26 2010 9:22AM
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phelps
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yeah same problem with shin bang on the kreations. Hit a kicker like 3 times and I could harldey walk (i was landing pretty backseat) but still un impressed with how easily i got shin bang. On the not of two buckles creating shinbang: that has nothing to do with shinbang at all. Never riden the pro's but if you can snag a deal thats what i would go with to.
Dec 26 2010 10:57AM
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tomPietrowski
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The spk Pro you are looking at does not have the rubber toe box. That did not come in untill last year. Its the 07/08 your looking at. Its a good boot but it does fit slightly tighter then the Kreation or the koas due to the leather. Its mainly tighter in the instep but you can cut a section of leather if needed. I would not bother with the kreation, its the cheap one, get the koas at the very least. If I was you though and you know any one in the industry wait a few weeks and get one of next years SPK Pro's. Gone is the leather and it is now stiffer at 120 so it becomes a good all mountain boot as well as park boot.
Dec 26 2010 2:14PM
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Grilledsteeze212
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the flex for the spk pro is 110 and it does have shock pads
the flex for the kreation is 90 and they have heel shock pads
Dec 26 2010 2:51PM
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derpina
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Alright. None of these posts are very accurate.

I have the SPK PRO's and love them because
1. I have never had shin/toe bang in them and jump Freeway @ Breck.
2. They are stiff enough to take out of the park into the trees/ big mountain.

The leather isn't what makes them more stiff though, dude's retarded^. The leather is simply slapped on over the plastic.

The Kreation's aren't as stiff and also don't have as good of "bang" protection. The leather is a negative of the pro, because yes it rips easy, but as of next year they will no longer be made with leather.


Bottom line:
If you're a park rat that doesn't have an issue with shin/toe bang, get the Kreation's.
If you like to go huge or take your riding to big mountain, get the Pros.

They pack out A LOT so make sure to get a size smaller than your usual size. (That's why people start to get shin bang with the SPK'S.)

Dec 26 2010 6:11PM
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joshua
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How long do they take to pack out? My brothers SPK's have like 6 days on them and they fit me nice, probably going to be getting the same size.
Dec 26 2010 8:04PM
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derpina
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This is my 2nd season on them and I'm really starting to notice them packing out a lot... Finding myself having to buckle 1 to 2 buckles tighter. I ride a lot and got them half way through last season so they have a good 110 days on them.

Now that I think about it, I can't say I'd want a size smaller in the pros and I bought my shoe size (I'm a female though so I have bigger calves than you males.) I've heard you should size down with the Kaos and Kreation's though... I think they have the tenancy to pack out more than the pros.
Dec 26 2010 9:39PM
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Crispy.
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Mine took about 15 times skiing in them to pack out. I also have massive shin bang in mine.
Dec 26 2010 9:43PM
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derpina
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Unless you look like your icon I don't know how that's possible with the Pro's. You live in Wausau. The biggest cliffs/jumps don't exceed 4ft.
Dec 26 2010 9:47PM
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joshua
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Try raising the spoiler, it will give you more support when you land back seat.
Dec 26 2010 11:55PM
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dylan.r.1080
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you don't have a valid argument about anything boot related if you go off of shoe size.
Dec 26 2010 11:58PM
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-ROY-
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kreations are rather basic. been riding them for like 3 seasons. meh they are ok. wish they were stiffer and fit better. decent boot tho never had any real issues with them
Dec 27 2010 12:02AM
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THill
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get the kaos if any. their stiffer then the kreations and lighter then the pros. and the kreations dont have a pull tight liner. the kaos and pros do
Dec 27 2010 12:44AM
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joshua
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Bought some Kreations today for $280 after I traded in my current boots. Tried them on the hill for a few hours and they feel great.
Dec 27 2010 8:27PM
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Peter.
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i don't understand how you guys get shinbang from these boots. tighten the drawstring, and tighten the powerstrap. it should fit tight on your leg unless you have serious chicken legs
Dec 28 2010 9:27PM
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binturong-qwerty
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Soooo true
I got kaos's and when measuring, i was a 26.5
I guess the guy at my shop did know that it packs out a lot. It was perfect for a few days.
Then the shit hit the fan.
I have such bad shin bang the at I can barely walk without pain. Gonna go cut up some beer coozies, brb...
Dec 28 2010 9:34PM
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binturong-qwerty
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Sorry for the dub post but I was riding really hard from like first chair to last chair and I was in the park all day trying new tricks, so I really worked them, But I still Love them
Dec 28 2010 9:36PM
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joshua
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Have you tried moving the top buckle to the closer hole? It gives way more closing power that way if you are having trouble getting a tight fit.
Dec 28 2010 11:28PM
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