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Help me pick a mountain bike for my byfrnd

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bunnyluv
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Can anyone give me some advise on a mountain bike for my 16 year old byfrnd? Thanks!
Dec 17 2010 9:29AM
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General_Ripper
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You obviously know nothing about materials.Everytime you drop, or scratch a carbon fiber frame you will most likey weaken it. Carbon fiber frames are made for the best riders becasue they are less likely to damage it and they usually go through frames faster anyway. I guess it depend on how you ride and if the reduction in weight is worth the durability. Unless you compete a carbon fiber frame is a waste of money 
Dec 18 2010 1:54PM
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dat_ski_dude
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how much you lookin to spend?

Dec 18 2010 2:15PM
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Skittle.
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uh huh and thats why the santa cruz v10 dh frame is CF huh...not gonna damage it..huh...
Dec 18 2010 2:15PM
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gordie.
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typo- I said holding it but I meant to say riding it. it was a bad crash- real bad, but still- it does add to the danger of riding it. mind you, this was when carbon fiber was just starting to be used for XC frames about 4 years ago, so it wasn't like it was as well developed as the glory is going to be.

still goes without saying I'd choose a regular glory frame over a CF one. go on Pinkbike and check out the carbon fiber pictures of frames snapping, it's brutal.

and man, I just don't understand how you think it's normal to ride in mud, xc especially, and not get your bike and yourself covered. I mean that's what just happens... unless you're some henry with home made fenders or something, I don't see how you wouldn't get muddy... that's what goggles/ your kit is for?
Dec 18 2010 4:20PM
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skiierman
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reason is because i don't generally joke around about bikes... its something that i actually know about.
Dec 18 2010 6:09PM
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skiierman
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when it does come down to it, carbon fiber does snap instead of bend which is a danger but with the quieter, lighter and stronger frame, it makes up for that. people do have their preferences, however, which is always the most important aspect. to the muddy part, yeah i've gotten muddy but really getting covered in mud completely is on the rarest of days... especially considering that you'd have to be on a trail that's already destroyed such as a race course or some quad trail in order to not do damage to existing single track... or if you're doing lift access, in that case every run you're going to get covered. if you do end up in a very muddy situation, this bike (which is def. intended for racers or hardcore riders only) can easily be protected from filling up with mud without compromising the weight much.

by the way they make a road version of this frame and personally believe that it makes more sense as a roadie than a xc bike.
Dec 18 2010 6:21PM
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skiierman
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these handlebars were def. not carbon fiber. thank god.

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Dec 18 2010 6:59PM
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laxstar
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are east coast supply comany bikes any good my mom won one in a raffle.. has anyone heard of them and are they worth any money
Dec 18 2010 7:05PM
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feihlination
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totally agree with that. i would say the addtional utility you get from a bike that costs 8000 in relation to one that retails for 6000 is close to nothing, and if youre not a world class athlete you wont feel/need the difference.

example: the best (=most expensive) shift-group shimano makes (idk, XTR?) is the same stuff (same gears, etc) as the other versions, but made of a lighter metal, which reduces a few 100 grams. only if youre a professional, great thing, because they arent even as durable as idk, LX, XT or so (maybe i fucked up a few notations/names, but the message is true)
Dec 21 2010 2:19PM
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CabDoctor
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That's not exactly true. In the higher end grouppos such as XTR, X.0, X.X, Dura-Ace etc, many of the internal mechanisms are milled from harder plastics and/or metal. What this means is that while everything shifts perfectly on the show room floor, after 2 years of abuse, the high-end stuff is still going to shift perfectly and the lower end and mid-range stuff is going to degrade rather quickly
Dec 21 2010 2:38PM
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T.Spliff
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skiierman dont fuck with Gordie he has been a member on here for almost two yearzzzz. noob
Dec 21 2010 2:42PM
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Pow.yuHdig*
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that thing is sexy


and dont by him a bike you will end up not spending enough and giving him a shitty bike he doesnt really want

or you will end up spending mad cash and then he will break up with you cuz he thinks your crazy for spending a couple grand on a sick bike


and hes probably gunna get you hair elastics so just get him silly puddy
Dec 21 2010 2:57PM
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mr.k2
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a dope bike is the Demo by Specialized pricey but a great reliable bike.
Dec 21 2010 3:06PM
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feihlination
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yeah, it wasnt like a scientific study. just my impression i got from talks with semi-pros/pros and from working (and seeing tons of bikes every week in detail) as a mtb-guide in summer.
Dec 21 2010 6:24PM
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CabDoctor
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Well as a semi-pro I will tell you that I won't ever go lower than XTR/XT just for the sake of durability. Its nice being able to grab old parts from a bin and knowing they're going to work fine no matter how old they are.
Dec 21 2010 7:25PM
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UNREAL
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god i love fortune

National you dont need to touch your brakes until the big rocky left hander and the run that goes through the dump and couches corner is such a sick race course
Dec 21 2010 7:27PM
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skiierman
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truth.

ummm... question... semi-pro? seems like a useless term to try to sound better than an amateur, kinda like "tween". god i fucking hate the term "tween".
Dec 21 2010 7:30PM
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CabDoctor
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You get free stuff but arent on a pay-roll
Dec 21 2010 7:33PM
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CabDoctor
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And semi-pro was a category above expert but below pro. That is before the USCF consolidated the categories into Cat 1, Cat 2, and Cat 3 a few years ago.
Dec 21 2010 7:35PM
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skiierman
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i'm not a fan of the category system because i feel it breaks everything up way too much and really there's no need for a pro and cat 1. it really only works for the popular series and even then it kind of sucks.
Dec 21 2010 7:40PM
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FreeskierRocco.
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I didn't really read much of this thread... but I agree with skiierman, Giant is the way to go.

If your boyfriend is going to be Downhilling, buy him a Giant Glory. I'm currently riding the 08 model frame, but I've ridden the 2010 and it's deffinetely one of the better bikes out there right now. I've ridden Banshee, Morewood, and Santa Cruz, but I enjoy the feel of the Glory.

If your boyfriend is going to be riding XC, buy him a Giant Reign. I've ridden them before and I loved them and I'm planning on buying one for my next XC bike.

If you have any questions about these PM me.

Dec 21 2010 7:41PM
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SkiGoldPeak
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I would say the Huffy Supreme XT4, Sick ride. Disc brakes, cool tires, spokes, handlebars, pedals, frame, shocks.
Dec 21 2010 7:44PM
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CabDoctor
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Yeah I agree. I would much rather see a A,B,C category and that's it!
Dec 21 2010 8:10PM
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skiierman
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what cat do you currently race and for road or mtb? although its almost useless to know what cat someone races, haha.
Dec 21 2010 8:13PM
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gombo8
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pinkbike.com the newschoolers of biking pretty much
Dec 21 2010 8:22PM
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gombo8
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pinkbike.com the newschoolers of biking pretty much
Dec 21 2010 8:23PM
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CabDoctor
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Cat 2,

Although Cat A in the local series.

Makes no sense does it
Dec 21 2010 8:40PM
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skiierman
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kinda... local series are normally way less competitive but yeah another flaw with the cat. system.
Dec 21 2010 9:06PM
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FreeskierRocco.
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How old are you? and where do you live? That's the cat I race in.

Dec 21 2010 9:07PM
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CabDoctor
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Well I'm in northern California so the talent pool for the local series is usually deeper than the actual sanctioned race series. Which is rather ironic
Dec 21 2010 9:21PM
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skiierman
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yeah i'm stoked to race the downieville classic because of cali's deep talent pool.
Dec 21 2010 9:25PM
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gordie.
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2011-2007= 4

good addition

and just because I've been on here 4 years, doesn't mean I haven't been on the site for longer
Dec 21 2010 9:41PM
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gordie.
Posts: 2014 - Karma: 84
yeah I see your point. lift access DH will cover you head to toe, but it's true, xc really won't. and yeah that frame makes hella more sense for road. certainly looks cool either way.
Dec 21 2010 9:42PM
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ChrisSkisChronic
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I don't know I've you've gotten a chance to ride National since the last O-cup was held on it but it's atleast 2x as dope. There's 2 new stepdowns (side by side) and 2 new tables. So much fun. Next time you're there make sure you ride Evergreen (bomb ass steep/tech DH), Jacob's Ladder (more steep tech DH) and Megalodon (one of the best freeride trails I've ever had a chance to ride). But you need to ask the right people to get to Jacob's, since it isn't an official trail.
Dec 21 2010 9:44PM
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