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Canon DSLR's - how's the grouping work?

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TijmenDal
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Hey!

Just out of sheer curiosity:
How do the Canon lines differ from each other? By lines I mean:
- 450, 500, 550D etc.
- 40, 50, 60D
- 7D, 5D, 1D
The last 'line' doesn't really matter to me, because I know I'll wont be buying any of those camera's anyway, but how do the 'tens' and 'hundreds' line differ from each other? Are they used for different kinds of photography or what...?

Thanks in advance!
Oct 20 2010 5:35PM
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50in07
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That's pretty close except I would say the T2i(550D) is nicer than the 40 and 50 D.
Oct 20 2010 5:54PM
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kzrstf
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i dunno, if the t2i didn't have video, i would probably go with a 50d, the body is less cheap/plastic, more durable.
Oct 20 2010 6:04PM
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wynnyk
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50D can only take pictures, however it has a magnesium alloy body
60D has a polycarbonate body, but it does actually feel a lot more rugged and durable than the t2i, it also has a swivel screen, and better audio controls for video than the t2i and the 7D
7D had a magnesium alloy body, takes video 1080-30 and 720-60, and has a cropped sensor
5D and and 1D also take video, however I don't think 720-60, and are full frame sensor cameras, which I don't know a lot about.
Oct 20 2010 6:20PM
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kzrstf
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the 1d isnt a full frame, 1.3x i think
Oct 20 2010 6:24PM
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Bentley@DOSMedia
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Pretty solid response except that 60d body is NOT what it is advertised. I was just looking around since I am selling my 50d for a t2i (not stoked, but i need a second angle since ill be solo filming a lot this year), and I read a lot of critism on the body of the 60d. Its obviously a little bigger and heavier, but people are saying it is just like the t2i and they are disappointed on the durability. I guess there is a reason though that it is in between the t2i and the 7d though. Also as for the swivel screen, it is a good idea, but I read multiple concerns that it is very very weak and wouldnt pass the "drop test."
A good thing about the 60d is that you can control audio levels, but on the t2i you can not.
The 5d does not do 60p as you said, and I have not heard of any reasoning why? It has the dual digi processors, doesnt it? Just makes no sense.

Thats another difference. The 7d has dual digi processors (not sure on the 60d) and the t2i doesnt. The advantage that gives the 7d is that it does a little bit better in low light and can shoot stills at 8 fps vs the t2i's 3.7. Im not sure what the 60d shoots, but my 50d shoots 6.7 fps, so i assume thats the same.

If your looking to shoot stills only, you cant really beat the price of the 50d right now. It has a solid body (magnesium alloy), and the quality of pictures is some of the best for a cropped sensor camera.

On a side note, the t2i was actually tested and shoots a little sharper images then the 7d. Just something to think about.

Hope that helped a little.
Oct 20 2010 6:39PM
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Bentley@DOSMedia
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Oh and Im selling my 50d right now with a bag and 8 gig compact flash card for about 700 :).
Oct 20 2010 6:40PM
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assface
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we get it...
Oct 21 2010 1:33AM
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TijmenDal
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Thans a lot guys!
From what I can make up about all this is that the T2i/550D is the best 'all-round' camera. Of course I'm not a professional photographer but the 550D really appeals to me.
How much worse are the 500D and 450D? I don't know anything about the names of those in the US because everyone's always talking about the T2i...

I actauly got a job now (and I'm being paid really good!) so now that I have money on my hands I might buy an SLR! I'm having a lot of fun with my mums old Nikon FG so... (first I'ma buy a new guitar and Bent Chetlers though, I'll see after that)
Oct 21 2010 3:44AM
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Heath.
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the t2i is still a rebel, which will never be better than a recent xxD series.
Oct 21 2010 4:19AM
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TijmenDal
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Hmm...from what I can see from this thread it's mostly just the materials used for the body? I don't really care if it's top-notch or not, I just have the feeling most people prefer/use the T2i over the xxD series...
Oct 21 2010 7:25AM
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mnjib
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This tread made me LOL

http://usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/slr_cameras

Top to bottom left to right goes from top to bottom of the line.

Will, saying that the t2i is better/nicer then a 40/50d based on what? The 40 and 50d have sharper image, better construction, more control.


Oct 21 2010 11:21AM
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Heath.
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Ones a rebel (soccer mom camera) one is a higher level dslr. OMG 40d/50d doesn't take video!!11! dslrs aren't suppose to. my 40d is still a better photo camera than a t2i. It has nothing to do with the physical specs, its all about how the camera operates and the certain things you can do within each camera.
Oct 21 2010 11:25AM
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50in07
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For people wanting to shoot video its a nicer camera.
Oct 21 2010 11:33AM
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Heath.
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Irrelevant, if ALL of them shot video you could maybe make the argument, but only the 5 newest canons shoot video. Video is not something you'd put into consideration when deciding which dslr is better than the other.
Oct 21 2010 11:36AM
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wynnyk
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it's all personal preference, if one person shoots video more than they do pictures, then the one that shoots video would be the better choice obviously, and vice versa.
Oct 21 2010 12:11PM
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TijmenDal
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For me it is...I wasn't till I found out what amazing stuff people make with T2i's...I mean, buying both a camera and a camcorder is quite expensive.
I know that you're a pro photographer, but a T2i makes sick photo's too as well... And the camera being more versatile is for me (and a lot of people on here I think) more important than the slight increase (correct me if I'm wrong) in photo quality?
Oct 21 2010 12:19PM
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Balto
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then chances are they won't be looking at a dslr anyway

no rebel can compare in image quality to a xxD/xD, thats just how it is, and seeing as they are photo cameras first, that should be the main point of interest. a rebel is a fantastic starter camera, but you will out grow it and want something with more controls, better build quality, and sharper images.
Oct 21 2010 1:46PM
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WillStart
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they will if they want shallow depth of field and 1080p without having to drop a shit ton on an HPX with a 35mm adapter
Oct 21 2010 3:22PM
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TijmenDal
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The HPX might be a bit too good a camera...
I'm starting to seriously wanna save up for a camera and while in the beginning of the day I was pretty sure I weren't gonna buy anything else than a T2i, now I'm a bit more skeptical about it.
I got the feeling the 60D is the way to go now, because it has all the good things of the 50D and the T2i combined...or am I completely wrong? Too bad it's 950€...
Probably gonna buy a second  hand T2i anyway... I mean, the camera still makes amazing photo's/vids right?
Oct 21 2010 3:30PM
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WillStart
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I have a T2i and it's amazing. sure there are a ton of problems with it, but the shots that it produces look great. they have a certain digital look that i'm getting tired of, but i still love the camera.

despite the fact that apparently the 60D isn't super durable, that seems to be the most progressive DSLR in terms of video right now considering the adjustable audio levels and swivel LCD. If i were still in the market for one, i would buy a 60D. hopefully soon they'll introduce those features to a full-frame camera, but until then the 60D might be the most diverse DSLR for video.

my $.02
Oct 21 2010 3:40PM
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TijmenDal
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And what about something like the D7000? I don't know picture wise, but I remember reading something and I was like: AMGZ! Something that a neither a T2i or 60D have.
Oct 22 2010 3:26AM
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WillStart
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is that a nikon? i don't know anything about nikons other than the fact that i've heard many people say don't buy nikon, even professional photographers who shoot nikon
Oct 22 2010 4:29AM
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TijmenDal
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I don't know anything about it, but I can hardly imagine nobody likes Nikon, in fact, I'm pretty sure a lot of people do like Nikon. It's just I have a warmer feeling with Canon and the camera's look much better too. Nikon cameras are ugly, while Canon slr look pretty cool imo.
Oct 22 2010 11:30AM
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IanAvery-Leaf
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your ruining M&A.....this is the not what you should consider buying a DSLR. Don't pull a DownToFilm and bring down M&A with stupid posts like this...


Quoting Will_Erickson. from Oct 20 2010 5:54:20:
I would say the T2i(550D) is nicer than the 40 and 50 D.
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I hope you're joking

Quoting TijmenDal from Oct 21 2010 7:25:17:
I just have the feeling most people prefer/use the T2i over the xxD series
no....
Oct 22 2010 11:56AM
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japollner
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Nikon doesnt fit my hand. Meh.


Is this your first DSLR? T2i.

If not, 60d.

If you know and want what I am talking about when I say 8fps, more ISO flexibility, weather sealed magnesium chassis, and more other features like "AF Micro Adjust" and "integrated wireless E-TTL metering and control" then 7d.


Pretty basic.
Oct 22 2010 1:26PM
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WillStart
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i never said nobody likes nikon, but i'm saying i've seen numerous posts in m&a by pretty credible people saying not to buy nikon, especially if you'll be doing video. nikons just aren't on the same level as canons in terms of video right now
Oct 22 2010 3:00PM
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1337
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nikon blows
Oct 22 2010 3:16PM
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WillStart
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thank you sir
Oct 22 2010 3:25PM
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TijmenDal
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I don't, it's just that I have a warmer feeling about Canon...
And about the T2i vs xxD series, most people on here seem to go absolutely ape-shit about the t2i, while I see less talk about the xxD's. Sure enough most people that focus on photography solely would prefer a xxD, but that's the point: A lot of people find the video option important too...
Oct 22 2010 4:04PM
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1337
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the t2i is popular here because, for the price, its a great camera. The 60d is a great camera and is better than the t2i, and photo-wise the 50d and 40d are too.
Oct 22 2010 4:16PM
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WillStart
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i bet people will start going crazy for the 60D the way they do for the T2i, i just don't think enough people know about it yet. much better for video than the T2i aside from the fact that the LCD is fragile
Oct 22 2010 4:17PM
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gordie.
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bullshit.
what's with all this nikon hate now?

everyone's on canon's dick now, and it's starting to become a huge piss-off.

"nikon's don't fit my hand", "nikon's look uglier", total bs. everyone would say the same thing about canon if everyone told you to like nikons.

and for the record, I shoot canon, I just can't stand when people have to poke their noses into something they nothing about
Oct 22 2010 4:29PM
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1337
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it's just a joke mang. I guess I spend too much time on canon photography forums :\
Oct 22 2010 4:41PM
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WillStart
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it is kind of ridiculous when people say that, but having worked with video from both a T2i and a Nikon, the T2i footage looked way better. That being said, I don't know which Nikon it was and how it compares in terms of sensor size or anything like that
Oct 22 2010 4:48PM
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RileySnyderPhoto
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Heath a pro photographer... made me lolz
Oct 22 2010 5:22PM
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Coalescent
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when I bought my DSLR, video was a huge factor.
Oct 22 2010 7:44PM
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TijmenDal
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This. Support, hell yeah!
Oct 23 2010 1:41AM
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Heath.
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Because you wanted to shoot video with it, im talking about photogs.
Oct 23 2010 2:52AM
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no_steeze
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nah rebels aren't better

i think of it like:
rebels
40d, 50d, 60d, 7d
1d series, 5d, 5dmk2

i put the 7d in with the 40d series because it's a crop sensor. i think of all canon full frame bodies along with the 1d's as a step up
Oct 23 2010 3:12AM
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1337
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1d mkIV, 5d mkII, 7d, 5d, 60d, 50d, t2i, 40d, t1i
Oct 23 2010 3:37AM
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Heath.
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lol based on what?
Oct 23 2010 4:18AM
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Ben.
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hes owned practically all of them at some point in his indecisive photo/video endeavor?



hahaha sorry, had to.
Oct 23 2010 5:02AM
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no_steeze
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the 40d is basically better than the 50d so they can't be split up by the t2i which is still a soccer mom camera as are most rebels
Oct 23 2010 10:22AM
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Balto
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i wouldn't say "better", but the minimal differences do not warrant the higher price tag of the 50d thats for sure
Oct 23 2010 10:24AM
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no_steeze
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its like buying a 30d over a 20d. canon makes major upgrades every 2 model jumps, so the worth it ones are the 20d, 40d, and i dont know anything really about the 60d but it seems sweet
Oct 23 2010 10:33AM
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