Fischer Boots

have you tried a pair on? you'll know immediately whether the abducted stance is something that works for you or not. it'll either feel like you finally found the thing you've been missing in ski boots forever, or it will be the most awkward position you've ever stood in in your life. the easy way to tell is to stand with your feet should width apart with your feet straight ahead, not in ski boots, and flex forward. then do the same thing with your forefoot angled slightly to the outside. if the first position feels like a more natural flex to you, you don't want fischers. if the second feels more comfortable, give them a shot. there's a couple other higher end boots that do the same thing, they just don't market the shit out of it like fischer does. most plug boots do this to some degree, since it can help you get a higher edge angle out of your ski.

I tried them on at a shop a couple weeks ago, I didnt really have a strong opinion on them, but i was wondering how much people liked them when on the mountain.

i've fit a lot of people in them and have never heard a negative remark about them

Have you heard anything positive?

absolutely!

what most people notice after a couple hours of skiing hard is the lack of fatigue in their quads because of the alignment of the feet. some companies only off-set the toe of the boot while fischer off-sets the entire foot, toe to heel.

fischer sucks, it really does

not true. cool post noob.

And the thing about the angle is that it drives your skis into the turn and its sweet, i love the fischer boot set up, although they are alittle cold but its a ski boot, and a good one too.

soma-tec isn't going to help you ski better, because the technology was poorly thought out, the angle difference fischer talks about (soma-tec) happens in the middle of the foot instead of in the heel, it needs to happen in the heel if its going to make a difference. Nordica saw what fischer was trying to do and did it proper.

a little narrow but makes u carve deep

To clear this up quickly: Fischer was the first to come to the market with this technology, and is the only one who is doing it in a way that will benefit more than 80% of skiers. Fischer's Soma-Tec is abducted from the MID-foot (balance point), and they have had the patent on that since the beginning. It's 3.5 degrees from that point to the toe, and 3.5 degrees from the balance point to the heel, totaling 7 degrees. All the other boot companies are not allowed to abduct their boots from the mid-foot which forces them to abduct from the heel, which has proved to be much less effective for the majority of people and can cause over-edging due to how much further over the outside edge you are. Hence why a few other brands have either dropped it completely or only kept it in their high end boots.

By abducting from the mid-foot (which is the balance point) your center of gravity lies directly above the middle of the ski. This slight abduction is a "natural stance" and it's the way you walk and run as well. As a result of this slight abduction the knees and ankle joints are no longer twisted, even when your knees are bent, which reduces stress there, and takes less effort overall.

The jury is still out on abduction for all types of skiing, especially in race where it messes with canting and footbed alignment. Fischer is the only brand that uses it in racing, and even then with little success in World Cup.

Again, abduction doesn't work for every single person, but has proven to be effective in the vast majority of people.

The Fischer boots have been really successful on the World Cup for years now, as well as used by freeskiers with no issues.

How do you mean "messes" with canting and footbed alignment?
Both are still able to be modified just like in a traditional stance boot.

Fischer has been doing quite well in the technical events on the World Cup. They haven't done much on the speed side of things though

Canting is most effective in a straight line (knee/foot pointed down the ski), so when different planes are working (knee/foot plane off the ski plane), canting becomes a nightmare. Because now, you are not simply bringing the knee back over the center of the ski, but drastically changing the angle from the lower leg to femur and causing it to kink.

Concerning footbeds, a footbed brings the knee back over the second toe (super generally speaking) and if you abduct the foot, this opens your hips in a funny way. Try it out just standing in your shoes. If you abduct your foot, then bring your knee over your second toe, see what it does/feels to your hips, especially with both feet at the same time.