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Please Help. HV40 + Final Cut Pro 7

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Moonshine
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i know there have been many of these thread before, but i just updated to final cut pro 7 and its giving me some trouble. can someone please tell me the steps and settings for log and capturing through an HV40? i shot in HDV30p. i want to upload so that i'm getting the great quality of the HV40. pleasee help
Oct 5 2010 9:25PM
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the.hoffman
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threads, cause I just got a mac and final cut and haven't done any uploading yet with my hv40.

What's the issue?
Oct 5 2010 9:30PM
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vandersteeze
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Well question number one are you using the USB or the firewire cable
Oct 5 2010 9:31PM
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vandersteeze
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and when I say firewire cable I mean the firewire cable which was NOT included in the box. You have to purchase it for yourself
Oct 5 2010 9:32PM
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Moonshine
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well, i want to get the quality onto final cut that i should be getting out of an HV40. honestly, i dont really know the settings i should be using and whatnot. such as under easy setup: format, rates and use. and under audio/video setup i just really dont know what im doing.

i have ideas about what each setting should be. like hdv 1080 30p, 29.97fps, etc. im just not quite sure. so a tutorial/walkthrough of all the settings would be greatly appreciated
Oct 5 2010 9:35PM
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vandersteeze
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If you set it on hdv 1080 30p as template you should be good Its more about what you put as how it renders the final product.
Oct 5 2010 9:41PM
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Moonshine
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true true. but a) how do i set hdv 1080 30p as a template? and b) if i capture it without the full quality its just gonna get worse and worse when i export
Oct 5 2010 9:43PM
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Moonshine
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and i have my own firewire. it connects and works, i just dont know how to make it work better, ya know?
Oct 5 2010 9:43PM
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vandersteeze
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Oh I was talking about setting 1080 30p as a template for your actual project. Frame rates and sizes are set as a menu function in your camcorder. When you capture the footage it just comes off the tape as whatever you set it as on the menu in the camcorder
Oct 5 2010 9:45PM
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vandersteeze
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Haha ok just checking
Oct 5 2010 9:46PM
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Moonshine
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alright, so i shot in HDV PF30. now, under easy setup, i have format set to HDV. i have use set to HDV - 1080p30 Firewire Basic. and rate set to 29.97fps. does this seem right?
Oct 5 2010 9:54PM
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1. Shoot in HDV 1080 24p (or 30p)
2. Open in Cinema Tools. Conform footage to 23.98 fps.*
3. Open in FCP with timeline settings: HDV 1920x1080 23.98fps

*Conforming 30p footage to 23.98fps turns the native file into slow motion, so make a copy if you aren't sure if you want it to be slow or not. If you want to keep it regular speed but get rid of the interlacing artifacts (inverse telecine), simply conform the 30p footage to 29.97 fps.
Oct 5 2010 9:58PM
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Moonshine
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.. do i really need to open the clips in cinema tools? i think that if i shoot in 30p, then import into FCP under 1080 30p with the frame rate at 29.97 it will be fine, or this not correct?
Oct 5 2010 10:02PM
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no because it will be interlaced.
Oct 5 2010 10:25PM
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Moonshine
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pretty sure i read something about not having to worry about interlacing with the hv40 or final cut
Oct 5 2010 10:26PM
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Moonshine
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bump
Oct 6 2010 11:47AM
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alright then have fun with that...
Oct 6 2010 12:40PM
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Moonshine
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sorry, its that because im shooting in 30 progressive, i dont have to deinterlace
Oct 6 2010 12:43PM
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Oct 6 2010 12:49PM
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Moonshine
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hahahaha fuck just help me!
Oct 6 2010 3:30PM
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[~_~]
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I just gave you the solution, but apparently your misinformation regarding miniDV framerates has led you to believe that I am somehow wrong when it comes to a process that I have done literally thousands of times.
Oct 6 2010 4:49PM
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To add, if it records to miniDV, its interlaced. No way around it. Any "progressive" mode is actually pseudo-progressive, since miniDV only records in 60i. Doing a reverse telecine in cinematools reassembles the data into what the computer perceives as true progressive footage, which is why it is a mandatory step of the post workflow f you wish to shoot progressive frame rates on miniDV.
Oct 6 2010 4:52PM
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Moonshine
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welll. i KNOW that i use miniDV tapes and i can record in 30p.. sooo
Oct 6 2010 6:30PM
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...

have fun with that.
Oct 6 2010 6:42PM
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WONTON
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LOL.....everything you need to know has already been laid out in front of you in this thread from slandy.

What you READ and what you THINK you KNOW isn't exactly right. Slandy is right. This is a process i've done countless times too.
Oct 6 2010 7:21PM
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Moonshine
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ok, sorry then guys, but how can it not record in 30p? why would the hv40 have an hdv 1080 30p setting if it can't record this format onto the tapes that it records on...
Oct 6 2010 8:58PM
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Because video equipment terminology is full of empty definitions.
Oct 7 2010 2:43AM
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