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STH 12 or griffon?

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andrew95
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so i just got some k2 domains and now im on to deciding on a binding. my local shop has the STH12 for 150 without tax so like 170-180? but anyways they do not carry griffons or any marker binding for that matter (fricken idiots) so they would have to order them.. im guessing that would be around if not over 229 (price online) so someone help me out im open to any thoughts, pros and cons and storys.
Sep 16 2010 6:00PM
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Heart
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Get the STH 12. They're more durable, and cheaper too, so definitely get them. Even if both were the same price, the STH's are the way to go.
Sep 16 2010 6:03PM
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arandomname
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You could buy my Head Mojo 15s off of me for 160 shipped.  Check my threads.  And if you don't want my bindings, definitely go STH 12.
Sep 16 2010 6:13PM
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andrew95
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no thanks but thanks for the advice anyone have any pros or cons on each binding

Sep 16 2010 6:31PM
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Contender
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im 130lbs, ski k2 disorderlys and 5'7.  i have marker griffons and i made the switch from Rossi Axials.  They are much lighter then rossi axials and have a nice swing weight.  they have been pretty durable for me so far, in my opinion the only durable salomon binding is the sth 16 but thats just my say
Sep 16 2010 6:40PM
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murs
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this is just my opinion

i love the griffions super solid binding a bit pricey but well worth it because the quality is so good

but how tall are you and how much do you weigh? and what type of skiing do you do?

that might help me make my choice
Sep 16 2010 6:48PM
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Lemuel
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You give bad advice.
Bindings have absolutely 0 effect on swing weight.
Binding weight only matters while you are carrying your skis.
All Salomon bindings are durable.

Coming from my experience, as I have both griffons and sth 12's, go with the sth 12's. Best heel piece out there, its the same as the sth 16, 5 screws, metal instead of shitty plastic. The only thing I like about the griffons are the toe pieces. I also need to lower the din alot on my griff's cuz they are on lizzies, so popping out doesn't exactly come as it should becasue the ski is so soft so that may my leading source of dislike.
Sep 16 2010 6:54PM
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andrew95
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thanks for the advice and here are some specs
-125lbs
-5'7
-park skiier nothing else really
-fairly small resorts in my area
if you want anything else just ask keep it coming!
Sep 16 2010 7:17PM
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andrew95
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oh and im leaning towards the griffons right now.. that may change
Sep 16 2010 7:17PM
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murs
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again just my opinion but griffions sond spot on for you

fit your weight very well and i cant stress enough of how much of a solid binding they are super good quality

go for the griffions

Sep 16 2010 7:32PM
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Aaaron.
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griffons would probably work for you, cause you're not that big of a dude. they have a ton of plastic on them. i have them, but only because i bought mine for $120.. if i had to pay full price, solomon would have been my choice
Sep 16 2010 7:33PM
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A-dub
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Other alternative would be the head mojo 12/ tyrolia peak 12. Pretty solid bindin, and was available cheaper than the sth12's last year. I use mojo 15 on all my skis, sick sick binder.
Sep 16 2010 7:38PM
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Aaaron.
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is this tgr?
Sep 16 2010 7:40PM
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A-dub
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haha no, my laptop sucks and the keys between D and H so the 1st letter in *uck, and last in bindin* dont work, so either have to copy and paste or be a bit creative in my spellin! sucks!
Sep 16 2010 7:45PM
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andrew95
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where did you get them for 120?

Sep 16 2010 7:46PM
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Aaaron.
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geartrade. they were really lightly used. just a few scratches.
Sep 16 2010 7:51PM
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arandomname
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Nevermind my PM then.
Sep 16 2010 7:54PM
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andrew95
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okay thanks ill take a look
Sep 16 2010 9:20PM
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Contender
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k easy there sweetums....

i found it way easier to swing spins espcially 270 ons after i got griffons.  It may have been all in my head and psychological but thats the way i found it.

But the performance on the binding itself (sth12) are fine i just didn't feel too good about the durability.

my first bindings were sth12s, they broke once i land switch.  There are tons of mixed experience with each binding. 
Sep 16 2010 9:39PM
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andrew95
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yeah i know where your coming from i think im probally just going to get the griffon for the whole swing weight thing but i dont think the black STH's that my shop has will go good with the domain

Sep 16 2010 9:45PM
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Avifarer
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i have griffons on my bibbys and sth 12s on my arvs and i like my griffons way more.
the 12's seem a bit shady and i feel like i'm super glued into my griffons. when you clip in its a bit of work.
never had problems with releasing when i need to, but i feel way more secure in my griffons.

Sep 16 2010 11:24PM
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andrew95
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yeah.. im pretty sure im going with griffons.. dam it thats another 80 hah
Sep 17 2010 7:13AM
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Lemuel
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haha I feel the complete opposite. You described how my sth 12's are to your griffons and vice versa. I have never popped out of my griffons, which scares the crap out of me, I feel super glued to them and do not like it. It's all about preference.

^And to my little rant, sorry mang, got a little carried away.
Sep 17 2010 7:50AM
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andrew95
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thanks for the input... anyone know how the both compare in weight?
Sep 17 2010 1:01PM
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arandomname
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There will be no noticeable difference really in swing weight.  The biggest difference is whether or not your skis are symettrical, bindings will make little to no impact.  The Griffons are lighter though I think.
Sep 17 2010 1:44PM
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Aaaron.
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the griffons have got to be lighter. things are like feathers.

Sep 17 2010 2:48PM
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.ste
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my bro has griffons and loves them
Sep 17 2010 3:48PM
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andrew95
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any one know a site to get some griffons cheap?
Sep 17 2010 6:11PM
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