i have griffons on my bibbys and sth 12s on my arvs and i like my griffons way more.
the 12's seem a bit shady and i feel like i'm super glued into my griffons. when you clip in its a bit of work.
never had problems with releasing when i need to, but i feel way more secure in my griffons.
Going skiing, then drinking instantly after until i black the fuck out. - eheath