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Flo_Rida_2016
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4 star General McChrystal was waaaaaaayy out of line in publically subverting his commander in chief. You are not a politician, youre a general Stan. You don't leak information. You are a member of the military apparatus, ie you have no rights, you have no say, you do what youre told in the chain of command and unfortunately even for 4 star generals, that chain of command ends at the President of the United States of America. That was an utterly dumb move in a war you have moral authority in.

That said, what the fuck Obama. What could you possibly do to push one of the most decorated and accomplished military men into the position he's in now? What the fuck does a leftist orphan from Chicago know about waging war? Listen to the man dammit. We all had suspcions that you sucked at national security, and while I began to believe you were somewhat competant, you fuck it up by alienating yourself from some of the best brass around. From the sound of it, it doesn't seem like one angry guy pissed off at Obama either, seems like a deeper internal issue.

Just to be clear:

4 Star General Stanley McChrystal's qualifications:
-West Point Grad
-82nd Airborne
-7th Special Forces Group
-Detachment Alpha
-Intelligence
-24th Mechanized Infantry
-75th Ranger commander Company A
-Strong personal relationship with Hamid Karzai
-Strong endorsement from Robert Gates

Obama's qualifications:
-Straight hood
-1/2 term as Senator
-uhh....
-Talks a tough talk?
Jun 23 2010 4:49PM
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Flo_Rida_2016
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ps i totally agree that McChrystal was waaayyy out of line and thank you to the person who pointed out it is illegal to do so under The Code.

anyway, not saying war is easy or being CIC has a straightforward approach, or COIN is a good strategy, but its just funny to see the different reaction Obama gets for fucking up a war and a national crisis, compared to a comparable Bush presidency.
Jun 24 2010 3:58PM
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geteducated
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and which book is that?
Jun 24 2010 4:00PM
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Flo_Rida_2016
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lol. Gen David Patreus is commander of CentComm aka the highest ranking Army officer, or arguably military officer, if you view that as being more important than chairman of the joint chiefs of staff adm mike mcmullens job. He won iraq. (PS no one gives Bush enough credit). Enough said.
Jun 24 2010 4:01PM
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geteducated
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well i didn't know he put in petraeus. lets see what he does and how quickly he gets up to speed. considering the summer is the most active time for the taliban.
Jun 24 2010 4:12PM
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jester8589
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mcchrystal openly admits to not liking a lot of aspects his job. seems like obama did him a favor.
Jun 24 2010 4:14PM
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cobra_commander
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How is the situation in Afghanistan worse then it was in JAN 2008?
How is Obama fucking up the Gulf Oil spill worse then Bush fucked up Katrina?

If your gonna make a claim like that, you should be prepared to back it up.

Just out of curiosity what has Obama done involving the Oil Spill that you think he shouldn't have? What has he not done that he should of?

How is Afghanistan 2010 worse then Iraq 2006? How has Obama fucked Afghanistan more in his first term, then Bush fucked Iraq in his first term?
Jun 24 2010 4:42PM
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Tasche
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I really don't understand where anyone can say that Obama is fucking up the gulf spill. He was communicating with them from day 1, he stopped deep water off shore drilling (A stupid thing to do, but still something), and he set up a 20 BILLION DOLLAR fund to clean up the spill.

Its a mile down, the government doesnt have anything that can help with that. Bobby Jindal is a fucking douche bag.
Jun 24 2010 4:49PM
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cobra_commander
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This is just funny to read. Pretty much shows how much of an armchair quarterback you are. You included some qualifications which don't help, and left out some that would have made your argument stronger.

Also you argument is:
Obama sucks. He sucks because McChrystal is so qualified, and a great military leader. Thats why he undermined his direct CO, in an incredibly unprofessional move, against the UCMJ.
Jun 24 2010 4:50PM
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cobra_commander
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Well aren't you just the most qualified expert on how to use SOF to effectively eliminate a government protected organization in a hostile country.

You should write a book. You could call it "Effective Use of Force Delta Special Ranger SEALs (FDSRS) in an Anti-Terror Capacity" It would be a great way for you to communicate with ju-whatshisface, on important ways to win the conflict in Afghanistan. Be sure to reference the SOF missions you have studied and know about.
Jun 24 2010 5:02PM
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cobra_commander
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Like you, I hardly think I am qualified to make good strategic and operational decisions for obtaining long-term goals, or discuss special operation warfare. Unlike you however, I acknowledge my lack of knowledge and experience in these fields, and thus keep my irrelevant opinions to myself, which are however different from yours.
Jun 24 2010 5:14PM
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cobra_commander
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No, I am saying that I am confident that you have no fucking clue, since you misused words that I use semi-regularly.
Jun 24 2010 5:22PM
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Mr.Panda
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Thing though is according to the chain of command this is almost like a demotion for Petraeus.

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Leader of the Afghan forces
Jun 24 2010 6:27PM
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Scrambles
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x hol
Jun 24 2010 7:10PM
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Scrambles
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^wow sorry my phone was in my pocket and I just "pocket posted" I guess
Jun 24 2010 7:11PM
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