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I hate you dave mathews!!!!

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theabortionator
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Title says the truth. Well it was fine before that the awful dave shows could continue, it's horrible scene could thrive, people could drink, throw  up, pass out everywhere.

But now they've gone and tried to ruin spac.

http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=937176


One of the sickest venues out there. Def in the top 10 in the country for big summer shows. Now thanks to beatings rapes, stupid little kids drinking and getting fucked up, people running people over, and everything fun that dave brings.... Police are cracking down on spac for booze?

Not that they'll ever be able to kill the party or buzz or the phish crowd next weekend, but seriously. Wtf? Who wants more cops at the party? the jam scene is a hell of a lot more friendly than and less likely to rape and run people over than the dmb crowd.

The article talks about how people can still buy drinks in the venue. Who the hell wants to pay $9 a beer?


Thank god there will be so many people  there it really won't matter. Just pissed that dave is slowly killing the vibes all around, like the oil spill.
Jun 11 2010 5:54AM
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theabortionator
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First I'm talking about ruining it for the other shows. They could boot dave and I wouldn't care. I hate the scene and the music.

But the problem is. The cops were harassing people that were 21+ as well, searching coolers taking everyone's beer. The phish kids aren't going to all be playing pong, and puking on each other. If you want a crack down keep it to dave shows.

By the way I'm 21, I just hate the idea of going through a checkpoint to get in to spac and having them check peoples coolers.  It's retarded.
Jun 11 2010 6:32AM
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martin.
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SPAC really wasn't that bad about drinking.....
Jun 11 2010 8:52AM
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theabortionator
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Word. I'm not going to have a problem(I hope) drinking my beers before the show regardless. Last year they drove around the laws looking for shit. Mostly just nitrous vendors, not hard to spot when there isn't a circus within 100 miles and 800 people have handfulls of balloons.

i just don't want to see cops riding around on atvs bitching at people for no reason and using those stupid alcohol detectors.

I'm probably going to set up home by the pools. No better way to beat the heat than some 2 dollar pool and waterslide action after some party favors.

It's a long fucking walk to shakedown from there though. I like the spot the best though.
Jun 11 2010 9:10AM
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martin.
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Where is the shakedown? There wasn't one at dave
Jun 11 2010 9:14AM
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theabortionator
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You won't find it at most of there shows. I can't even remember if allman brothers had one. that's about the most likely other spac show to find one. Dave would never have a shakedown.

It's in the front lot by the bridge on the far side.  If you walk out and across the bridge away from spac. that's where all the vendors will be. Lot is closed to parking without a vendor pass usually.  If you park on that dudes lawn that's about the closest you can get. ( that road right past that lot that goes back and around the lot theres that big house with $10 parking)

I just like being in the park where I can park and set up around 11. Most of the other spac lots were 4pm last year.


believe me, there will be plenty of stuff shakin on shakedown street next weekend.
Jun 11 2010 9:24AM
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Ski_the_east01
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Why is this dave's fault? It's not like the band encourages these prepubescent little fucks and frat boy assholes to get smashed and cause problems...its these rich little overprivileged fucks that are ruining spac not dave
Jun 11 2010 9:30AM
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hawaiiansteeze
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i dont see why your hating on dave for this first off.  sure dave attracts some fairly rowdy fans and many get too retarded.  hell, 2 years ago this girl in my grade in hartford sat on a grill, burned the shit outa herself, had her stomach pumped all the jazz.  what did we do give her shit for it from then till we graduated this year.

your always going to get the stupid 17,18 and 19 year olds that do dumb ass shit.  as long as your smart about you wont get harassed by the police.  they have more important shit to take care up like the endless fights, and passed out kids that need to go to the hospital.  ive only gotten harrased by a cop when one of my boys was being rowdy to a parking attendent. 

o and i heard dave isnt touring next year so you'll probably be happy to hear that
Jun 11 2010 9:38AM
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FrenchToastMafia
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i was at a dave concert at the comcast center about a week ago and the cops were so chill. they were taking pics w all the hot girls and not bustin anyone
Jun 11 2010 9:42AM
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bnor
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a couple girls from my school went to the boston show. they dont even remember it.
Jun 11 2010 9:43AM
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theabortionator
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Hopefully it wasn't a publicity stunt to sell tickets(not that he needs it) And hopefully there won't be a facebook page"If we get 97 billion people dave will tour this year"

There will always be rowdy drunken stupidity following dmb, I just don't want it to affect the legit shows at a legit venue. Cops tend to put all big shows at spac into a groups, and the dave crowd doesn't help the reputation.

at phish, if someone drops in the crowd, everyone helps, gives them water, helps them up, get's security or med staff asap. they don't trample them, rape them, laugh at them, take myspace pictures. run them over with a fixie, throw liqour bottles at them, beat them with a cooler top, and that kind of stuff.


Jun 11 2010 9:44AM
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theabortionator
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Is anybody going to any of the phish tour?
Jun 12 2010 5:31PM
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Thenowhereman42
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DMB sucks, Phish sucks, whatever
Jun 12 2010 5:33PM
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Ben.
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how is this dave matthews fault? blame the lax bros and highschoolers that cant act remotely responsible when they are drinking. not the band.


i mean there was a kid dangling from the balcony this year at spac. it really is getting out of hand, and dangerous for other people.

im all for having a good time, but it really is time some of these kids are taught that there are other people in the venue besides themselves.
Jun 12 2010 5:35PM
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theabortionator
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YEah for ure. Trey is a noob at guitar playing, prolly can't play mary had a little lamb. Fishman has no talent on the drumbs. Mikes bass lines are wack. Page shoul never go near a keyboard or piano again. CK5 Has horrible lighting ideas.
Jun 12 2010 5:57PM
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Thenowhereman42
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I just thought they were boring as all hell and only smelly hippies liked them, and that pretty much all "jam bands" are awful, but I guess I'll take your word for it.
Jun 12 2010 5:58PM
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theabortionator
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Yeah Maybe if they moves it to a different venue. I just don't like the reputation it gives spac shows. Your right it's not the bands, but the band brings these kind of people in masses at all their shows.
Jun 12 2010 5:59PM
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Dylan_
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opinions opinions opinions

without diverse music everyone would listen to the same shit, stop arguing over who sucks and who doesn't.

just because half you kids listen to underground rap doesn't mean your music is better than someone who listens to mainstream hip hop.
Jun 12 2010 5:59PM
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ECB
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I just got my tickets for Doobie Brothers at SPAC......i was reading this article earlier today......all i can say is THE FUCK?!
Jun 12 2010 6:00PM
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Thenowhereman42
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Yeah it does.
Jun 12 2010 6:01PM
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Dylan_
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from your perspective not from others just because you disagree doesn't mean other people can't like it..
Jun 12 2010 6:06PM
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Thenowhereman42
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They can certainly like it but I'm still going to make fun of them for it.
Jun 12 2010 6:07PM
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Dylan_
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i forgot its So0o0o0o K3wl to like music others don't, IM COOL BC I LISTEN TO A MUSICIAN YOU DOINT!

cool you arrogant piece of shit.
Jun 12 2010 6:08PM
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Scolson
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butthurt lol
Jun 12 2010 6:18PM
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Dylan_
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butthurt ? nah, just pisses me off little white suburban kids thinking theyre G listening to hardcore rap rollin' down their streets with their subs in their subarus
Jun 12 2010 6:21PM
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Ben.
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its the nature of any band with a big summer tour, kids like an excuse to get belligerent, and summer tour bands like dave give them the opportunity.


ask any REAL dmb fan, and they will tell you they hate the lax bros as much as nsers do. theres nothing worse than being at a DMB show with the frat boy next to you just screaming for crash the whole night.
Jun 12 2010 8:12PM
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asonUnique
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hell ya hittin up both hartford nights and i wanna see more shows but im sorta broke for the time being...
Jun 12 2010 8:29PM
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ECB
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Hey, I do! I bought my dad doobie brother tickets for fathers day. Gonna hopefully be a good show, good family time enjoying good music, I can't wait!
Jun 12 2010 9:12PM
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Ben.
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concerts with your parents are a good time.
im going to Rush with my dad in july haha
Jun 12 2010 9:39PM
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ECB
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haha nice!
my first ever concert was a green day concert with my family when they had the american idiot tour haha
Jun 12 2010 10:03PM
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theabortionator
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green day is one of those bands that needs to stop playing asap. I can't believe how horrible they have gotten.

And ben, I here you . I not a big dave fan though and def not a fan of the scene.


Phish hartford? Maybe gotta fix my car and get my ass out there
Jun 13 2010 12:25PM
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dmc12380
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shit im going to phish at spac.
gonna have to scheme my way in with alcohol now, ill make it happen.

last year there was no problem with alcohol at phish at spac, people were playing drinking games everywhere and i didnt see one past out kid or someone puke. probably because everyone was on some other drug, myself included.
Jun 13 2010 12:58PM
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asonUnique
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youve gotta man last year was suchh a great show
Jun 13 2010 1:00PM
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ECfreeski3
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alcohol detectors? what?
Jun 13 2010 1:04PM
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skiierman
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who the fuck cares? dave mathews fucking blows. anyone who still likes him is a trendy asshole with no sense of what's good music anymore.
Jun 13 2010 1:24PM
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hawaiiansteeze
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yes skiierman.  your 23,954 posts make you the king of saying what music is good and what music people can enjoy without being a "trendy asshole with no sense of music"....
Jun 13 2010 1:27PM
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skiierman
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yeah and you spending thousands of your parents dollars to go to hood every summer to pretend you're really involved with the ski industry give you credit to say otherwise...
Jun 13 2010 1:30PM
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Billek
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Who the fuck drinks at shows anyways.

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Here's to getting fully altered, and actually remembering the show.
Jun 13 2010 1:39PM
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Beamer12
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Relax its just to scare everyone. They have been doing this since 03 and every year SPAC is the same. I walked by multiple cops this year with beers and tthey didnt say a word. THEY JUST WANT TO FUCK WITH IDIOTS. If your stumbling over yourself and yelling obscenities yea they are going to fuck with you. Just act like a responsible adult and they have no issue with you.
Jun 13 2010 2:35PM
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Thenowhereman42
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For the record its a VW and I couldn't afford subs so its just on the stock speakers. They still bump pretty good though.

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Jun 13 2010 2:44PM
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ECB
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Hey, didn't say I'm still a fan, but when I saw them, as my first ever concert, it was pretty good. I was like 13, and really enjoyed the show. But agreed, they do need to stop playing
Jun 13 2010 3:30PM
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Thenowhereman42
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Well I'm usually on my way to work, where I make learning fun, spark young imaginations and try to make the next generation of Americans not so far behind in science. Or I'm on my way to community college (couldn't afford real college), where I take evening classes trying to work my way towards an eventual degree even though its hard because I work almost full time.

So I'm actually being pretty fucking productive when you see me driving down the street bumping MAKE MONEY MONEY MAKE MONEY MONEY MONAAAY, TAKE MONEY MONEY TAKE MONEY MONEY MONEY MONAAAY.
Jun 13 2010 3:46PM
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theabortionator
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It's gonna be a very fun weekend.
Jun 13 2010 7:25PM
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fuzz.
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yummm
Jun 13 2010 7:44PM
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theabortionator
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Yea for party favors!
Jun 13 2010 7:46PM
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Alex_G
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that looks like it was smuggled in somebodys butthole.

but i fully agree
Jun 13 2010 7:48PM
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theabortionator
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I doubt they boofed the capelets. They might have boofed the molly and then put it in the pills though.
Jun 13 2010 7:54PM
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Alex_G
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just because phish doesn't give you a poppy sound doesn't mean that they suck. the drummer (fishman) incorporates classical themes into wailing guitar based jam-rock. dont be a jackass and say they suck when really they are one of the most musically talented groups in the game right now.
Jun 13 2010 8:25PM
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There are two types of people in this world.  Real dave fans and fake dave fans.

Real dave fans go for the music.  I have gone to dave at spac for six fucking years.  i am sixteen.  My dad started to bring me to a band he enjoyed seeing live when i was TEN.  therefore, because of my musical exposure as a young child, i enjoy going to see dave live and always will.  and i highly doubt if i will go in the future without the company of my dad, or anything less than completely sober.  real dave fans can go with the intent of getting their moneys worth in enjoyment of a good set put on by GREAT MUSICIANS.  its not my favorite band, nor my first pick to go see live, but whenever they come into town i enjoy what the band has to offer.  I dont need drugs, i dont need alcohol, i dont need to get laid afterwards to enjoy myself and have a good time at a dave matthews band concert.  I go for the music. if you can do that (not saying you should, you can do whatever the fuck you want to; everyone partakes a little differently), you're a real dave fan.  going for the music.

alright.  fake dave fans go for all the wrong reasons.  saratoga springs is a really cool city.  spac is a really cool venue.  they come in and shit on our wonderful city for a weekend.  jacked and tanned, drunk out of their minds, and everything else you can say stereotypical about them, they're there for a reason.  they may or may not enjoy the music, they may or may not remember the concert, they may or may not get their stomach pumped before even getting into the goddamn concert (actually happened to this chick i know), but they are there for a reason.  i dont know why, i guess "you can only enjoy dave if you're smashed out of your mind".  for everything anti-core that they bring however, they bring a shit-ton of money to spac.  so in actuality, i can't complain.  They keep spac alive.

now i know you like phish.  and i know you hate dave.  but really, people have got to stop being so intolerant of others and their music tastes.  Thread title: "I hate you dave mathews!!!!"  No.  You do not hate dave matthews band.  you hate the crowd he brings.  as stated by mr. ben above me.

i went to phish at spac last summer.  all in all a much chiller crowd.  you walk through the parking lots and get heady beers and boss burritos instead of charred burgers and PBR.  (almost) everyone is there for the music.  for the band.  supporting them.  now i didn't like the show as much, maybe cause i wasn't stoned as all fuck, but i just didn't enjoy it as immensely as i could have.  one reason for that: August 14th, 2007.  and i guess June 5th, 2010.  two best shows of my short life.

Jun 13 2010 8:48PM
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noname..
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wow.  sorry about that^.
Jun 13 2010 8:56PM
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mokeefe257
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dmb makes great music
Jun 13 2010 9:13PM
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