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Principle beats up student, is NOT fired.

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Obsessedwski
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http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia/story/2010/05/28/ns-fells-altercation-video.html?ref=rss&loomia_si=t0%3Aa16%3Ag2%3Ar2%3Ac0.179229%3Ab34043778



Jun 4 2010 6:13PM
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geteducated
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stay in school dude^
Jun 4 2010 6:16PM
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Bryan*
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That fuckin dick sucker he he touched me i would cock slap him.
Jun 4 2010 6:17PM
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fujarome
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hahaha awesome.

the principle was following the kid, and he was clearly up to something. He tried to restrain him, and the kid pushed back so he beat his ass, restrained him, and dragged his sorry ass to the office. Fantastic.

Can't wait til half this site condemns the principle despite not knowing the context of it at all.
Jun 4 2010 6:18PM
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freestyler540
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then again, the student pushing back isnt real smart either
Jun 4 2010 6:18PM
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fujarome
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the kid struggling also wasn't a good idea. He was probably some punk middle school kid (like some people on this site) who thought he was gonna be some tough shit, then got his ass wrecked.
Jun 4 2010 6:19PM
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pomme-de-terre
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kid got ROCKED.


anyways. thats bullshit over a cell-phone. not gonna lie, theres times i think teachers should be able to deliver an ass kicking. but over a cell phone? fuck you. fire that principal. give the kid some money in a settlement.
Jun 4 2010 6:20PM
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Big_Spence
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black man?
canada?
principal?

something is fishy about this whole situation...
Jun 4 2010 6:21PM
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geteducated
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ahem,

principal.

that is all.
Jun 4 2010 6:23PM
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DaveM
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/thread

Jun 4 2010 6:26PM
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Schlop
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what did the kid do that was sketchy enough to try and run?
Jun 4 2010 6:27PM
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rockjumper
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i wouldnt call it a beating at all. that little prick probably deserved an ass whooping anyways.
Jun 4 2010 6:29PM
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no_steeze
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schools will do anything to avoid firing black employees
Jun 4 2010 6:29PM
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I.Love.Beezy
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i dont see anything wrong. i saw no asskicking.
Jun 4 2010 6:31PM
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pomme-de-terre
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if you read the article you will see that after the video ended the kid was beaten up further in the office, where the camera couldn't see. he received a concussion from his beating in the office.



do you REALLY think he needed to give the kid a concussion? REALLY? the kid is 14. the principal is probably 40-50. he needs to learn to control himself. i dont care if you think you're all kinda hard core cause daddy spanked you once and you didnt even cry. that principal was in the wrong.
Jun 4 2010 6:32PM
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apcaipse
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While we don't know the situation, it's still totally past the line. I don't know about Canada's laws, but in America if a principle did that he'd go to jail for child abuse. You can't treat kids like that as an adult, if the kid was truly up to something he should have gotten the school cop to take him to the office or apprehend the supposed criminal. (Assuming there is one, I don't know about Canada)
Jun 4 2010 6:33PM
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paige.
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The situation took place in a middle school- hardly the real world. As far as I can tell the kid didn't cause any threat to the principal (he gave one small shove) or any of the students. Yes sometimes force is sometimes necessary to control a situation but in this case it was not. Did he deserve to have his phone taken away? Maybe. Did he deserve to be punished for shoving the principal? Probably. Was it at all appropriate for the principal to beat him up, resulting in a concussion? Absolutely not.

The principal is supposed to model appropriate behaviour for his students. What sort of message do his actions send to them?
Jun 4 2010 6:33PM
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PappaG
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I see nothing wrong there, except that it took the principle nearly a minute to subdue the bratty student into a private room devoid of any videography.
Jun 4 2010 6:33PM
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Guy.
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most of your posts make you look like one
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at the end of the day, the guy was still a principle and should be able to handle a cell phone confiscation differently. the school board knows he messed up otherwise they wouldn't have removed him from office. only if the child posed a danger to other student could/should the principle use force like that, like if the kid had a weapon or something.
Jun 4 2010 6:34PM
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corona
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ahahah no way he got a concussion from that as the family claims.

and what most people don't understand is that that is completely within the rights of the principle or a teacher. they moved him just to make people feel better but they couldn't fire him for that.
Jun 4 2010 6:35PM
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summersover
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"'What people don't understand is the tape is bad enough. It's what happened in the office that's even worse,' Wagner said.
The video shows Fells dragging Josh into an office, but ends there.
Wagner said the teen sustained the concussion in the office."

I'm skeptical...
Jun 4 2010 6:36PM
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wskibum176
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i see nothing wrong here either. I wouldnt consider this "beating a student", the kid touched the principle first if my memory serves me right
Jun 4 2010 6:37PM
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pomme-de-terre
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also, did anybody notice how many fat chicks there were standing around in that video?

FUCK. id be all pissed off and violent too if i had to look at that all day.
Jun 4 2010 6:37PM
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pmw
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a police officer does not have the right to use force like that on a minor, let alone a middle school principle.
Jun 4 2010 6:40PM
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corona
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well in Canada, and I'm absolutely sure in the US, it's alright to an extent.

read section 43 of the criminal code of Canada

"Section 43 provides that a parent, teacher or person acting in the place of a parent is justified in using force to correct a child that is under his or her care provided that the force used is reasonable in all of the circumstances."



teachers can give you a spanking if you're a snotty little punk kid and you can't do shit about it.
Jun 4 2010 6:41PM
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corona
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they do. god people are uninformed
Jun 4 2010 6:42PM
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twix_182
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the black kid in the end claims victory for the race as he nonchalantly leaves the school. black history month has its perks
Jun 4 2010 6:42PM
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1337
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this
Jun 4 2010 6:43PM
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geteducated
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they whining about a concussion to set up for a law suit case later on.

there are probably rules in that school about cell phone use.
Jun 4 2010 6:49PM
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Spinoza
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why didnt any of the kid's friends step in..
fuuuuuuccck


sue that bastard
Jun 4 2010 6:50PM
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TheHamburglar
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so the kid was going to video a fight that never happened on his phone. principal wanted to take the phone (with nothing on it) away. kid didn't give him the phone, principal tried to take it by grabbing the kid. the kid pushed the principal and the principal took him down. unless Im missing something here, that principal should never have laid his hands on the kid. what the hell is the kid at fault for?
Jun 4 2010 6:56PM
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goneforever
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This.

The kid refused to comply and restraining the kid was the right thing to do.

Also, in the article, the parents say the kid is a good kid - 99% of the time the kid is the complete opposite.
Jun 4 2010 6:59PM
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artfullydodged
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The kid pushed him, its not like he was gonna quietly follow him into the office after that so the principle dragged him (lol) nothing wrong with that.
Jun 4 2010 6:59PM
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pmw
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sigh. canada, U.S
two very different nations
Jun 4 2010 7:01PM
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.Natty.
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^why didnt the kid just give him the fucking phone, hes the principle and since there was nothing on it, he couldnt have gotten in trouble, and he pushed the principle. If you ask me that kid is a dumbass

that kid in the white sweatshirt made at best a feeble effort to do anything about it.
Jun 4 2010 7:05PM
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HalfandHalf
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wtf nobody helped him? dam i would think everyone would just jump on the principle
Jun 4 2010 7:08PM
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paige.
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if you read any other articles on the topic, it says that the principal wanted to take the phone away because the boy had used it to take inappropriate photos of a female student. The fight thing seems like the story the boy told his parents.

Jun 4 2010 7:08PM
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Mr.Panda
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That was a beating. That was grabbing him and carting him off to the office.
Jun 4 2010 7:10PM
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TheHamburglar
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yeah, the article posted on here was wrong. I guess the sex-starved principal just wanted to get his hands on some child porn.. kidding

its kind of funny because they also keep saying "NS parents" and NS this and NS that, referring to nova scotia, but all I can think of is Newschoolers
Jun 4 2010 7:11PM
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Mr.Panda
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That wasn't a beating is what I meant. Fuck.
Jun 4 2010 7:14PM
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Kirsakid
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I read the article and the principle was totally out of hand sure the kid had no right to not listen but giving a kid is a little to far
Jun 4 2010 7:23PM
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Dan-Man
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that is hilarious. if i was that kid, i'd of beat the shit outa the principal..  that is some child abuse.. that fuckin prinicpal needs to get arrested for that.

it is bull shit he wasn't already arrested and charged with assault on a minor.. BS.  I hope that piece of shit does some time for that un-necesary outrage.

Jun 4 2010 7:23PM
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geteducated
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okay tough guy
Jun 4 2010 7:24PM
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Dan.
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kid probably deserved way worse. fucking little kids these days feel so entitled and have no respect at all for elders or people in positions of authority. The principal used traditional submission techniques to try to get the kid under control and the kid tried to fight back. If that happened and instead of a principal it was a cop, the nightstick would have come out and rained hell. you people that side with this kid must be 12 years old and have no respect for rules or authority. and the parents saying the kid got injured are just trying to fake injuries to set up a frivolous lawsuit.
Jun 4 2010 7:26PM
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Mr.Panda
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You are a fucking idiot.
Jun 4 2010 7:27PM
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pmw
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if the cop decided to pull out the night stick then he would have been facing serious legal charges of his own
Jun 4 2010 7:29PM
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Mr.Panda
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Cop can pull the night stick and use it to restrain people by holding it across someone's chest to restrain their arms from moving and use that to move them.
Jun 4 2010 7:31PM
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Dan-Man
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mr.panda

you are a flamin retard if you are suggesting that the principal was not out of hand, and his actions are justified.  that is an assault on a minor if i've ever seen one.  fat old principal should be carted str8 to prison. 

Jun 4 2010 7:33PM
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.Natty.
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this except i dont know about beating the fuck outta him with a nightstick, that seems a little extreme but youre definitely right about the entitled spoiled kids part
Jun 4 2010 7:33PM
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fujarome
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its strange, i used to disagree with damn near everything you posted....but now i keep agreeing with you on various things. So congrats on being one of the few on here who started with 0 karma from me, but slowly rose to 10.

Anyways, as i said, kid was probably being a stupid punk and the principal wanted no more of it.

And also, even i'm guilty of it, we all clearly just copied how op wrote principal as principle.
Jun 4 2010 7:40PM
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Mr.Panda
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He reached over to get the phone as the kid was taking inappropriate pics. Kid pushed him, at that point eh principal can restrain them and take the kid to the office. Kid kept struggling which is why it looked like that.
Jun 4 2010 7:42PM
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