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Camera Suggestions

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midget.
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I'm looking to get a better camera for next season. I'm looking to spend around 1,000. Any Suggestions? Also, what do you think about getting a camera with a harddrive, such as the Canon HF20, which I've been looking at, versus a camera that uses actual film?
May 21 2010 5:20PM
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.Max.
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Media and arts section is the appropriate forum for threads that have media related questions.
May 21 2010 5:22PM
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.Max.
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https://www.newschoolers.com/web/forums/forumthreads/cat_id/4/

Sorry for the double post, but there is the link. (button isn't working)
May 21 2010 5:23PM
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eheath
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1. Do NOT get a harddrive camera
2. You obviously have no idea about how cameras work at all, you might want to reconsider purchasing a 1000 dollar camera. Im guessing by "real film" you meant dv tapes, in your case id either check out some smaller, cheaper SD cameras (panasonic gs500 is a solid one) or possibly a cheap HD camera like a canon hv30 or hf200. (hv30 = tapes hf200 = flash memory)
May 21 2010 5:26PM
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midget.
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thanks sorry man
May 21 2010 5:26PM
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harmoon
Posts: 210 - Karma: 57
hv30 they look sooo good and you cant get a better deal.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Purdyc12393 -my freinds youtube, all of the vids he shoots are on his hv30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94eYDy-HM0k -a video on a snow camping trip that looks really good shot by him.
May 22 2010 2:36AM
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C_Perin
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Canon Rebel T2i
best bang for your buck
May 22 2010 3:17AM
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PBraunstein
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by far... but you do need to buy things that will make it more expensive in order to use a dslr properly. and they are definitely not beginner friendly... takes some time to get used to.
May 22 2010 5:20AM
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VanMelle
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Love my HV30, good quality and under $1000
May 22 2010 10:29AM
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family_vacation
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Don't start with a dslr. The lack of autofocus and other quirks would not be fun for you.
May 22 2010 12:45PM
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PurpleDino
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Yeah I've heard bad things about hard drive cameras.  And if your just starting getting into the HD scene I would suggest the HV30.  You can get insanely nice quality out of it if you don't use the automatic settings and know the camera very well.  You also have to play around to figure out how to render your videos best bust after all that you can get the cam used for around 500ish.
May 22 2010 4:24PM
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The only thing cheap about a DSLR is the camera body. A solid DSLR setup costs much more than a video camera setup because glass is expensivo.
May 22 2010 4:26PM
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MAC.D
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The Canon HF20 doesn't have a hard drive, it records to solid-state memory.
May 22 2010 4:35PM
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PBraunstein
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half of your statement is correct.

im not sure what you mean by "solid" but i have a 7d, 5 lenses, filters, memory, batteries, glidecam and fluid head, and ive spent about 2500 on all of said equipment. an hvx alone costs nearly 5 grand.

a t2i with a fluid head and a glidecam will come to just over a grand.

youre statement about glass is half correct.
yes, new, digital glass is quite expensive, especially for fast glass. but a huge misconception is that you HAVE to buy new (or used-new) digital glass. WRONG! its actually harder to film with the newer digital lenses (foucus breathes; more elements; normally a less precise, geared focus ring). Currently, my most used lens (when im not follow caming) is my pentax 50mm 1.4 that was made in the early 60s... fucking amazing lens with crazy depth of field. $80 on ebay and all you need is a $5 adapter to have a perfect fit on your EOS mount (or any mount for that matter)
May 22 2010 4:48PM
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Truth, but the point I was trying to make is that once you have a solid collection of good glass, a DSLR setup isn't as cheap as people make it out to be. Wides, semi-wides, macro, telephoto, fish, etc. all add up. I prefer old manual lenses also, and there are definitely gems out there, but you can't bank on it.
May 22 2010 5:36PM
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PBraunstein
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agreeed.... haha... didnt even realize it was you landis... hahah
May 22 2010 5:38PM
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ODarrow
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Just don't get a hard drive camera, mine broke at the end of this season. So shitty
May 22 2010 7:38PM
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