Member of the Month

PartyBullshiit
March, 2024

Online

Welcome to the Newschoolers forums! You may read the forums as a guest, however you must be a registered member to post. Register to become a member today!

PETITION: KEEP TOBACCO OUT OF SKIING

profile picture
smuggs
Posts: 6561 - Karma: 1,373
After reading a thread in NSG, I'm shocked about people rationalizing that its OK for tobacco to be a part of newschool skiing.

[B]If you want to discuss the topic head here:[/B]

[URL="https://www.newschoolers.com/web/forums/readthread/thread_id/541552/page/1/"]https://www.newschoolers.com/web/forums/readthread/thread_id/541552/page/1/[/URL]

[B]If you think tobacco has no part in newschool skiing put your name in this thread you are reading.[/B]

This hopefully will let people step up to the plate, and maybe someone will see this who matters. It was quoted in the other thread that newschoolers.com pretty much invented this sport, so the site has say in it.

Tobacco has nothing to do with skiing. Their money will not help the sport. Anyone who takes thier money should rethink what they are doing.

THIS is taken from GT (general tobacco) 's website:
[B]GT and its employees are fully compliant with the Master Settlement Agreement (MSA), which confirms that we will not direct our marketing strategies toward youth; including the use of cartoons in advertising, outdoor advertising, free samples for minors, and restricting sponsorship of events with an abundant population of youth. In addition, General Tobacco is pleased to comply with all financial provisions set by the MSA in contributing to local, state, and federal foundations directed to the prevention and elimination of underage smoking.[/B]

Older folks usually don't look up to athletes the way young kids do. By sponsoring someone who young kids look up to a (newschool skier), and putting adds in a magazine, which is based around newschool skiing, which IS a sport of [B]ABUNDANT POPULATION OF YOUTH, GT is DIRECTING THEIR MARKETING STRATEGIES TOWARDS YOUTH and thus ARE NOT FULLY COMPLIANT WITH THE MASTER SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT[/B]
May 19 2010 12:19PM
0 0
profile picture
.peter
Posts: 1222 - Karma: 63
FUCK OFF

If you are so disgusted by snus then you obviously aren't going to do it. It doesn't affect you so top being a dick and FUCK OFF
Jul 6 2010 7:49PM
0 0
profile picture
bob_dole
Posts: 4076 - Karma: 1,579
PETITION: KEEP SMUGGS OFF OF NEWSCHOOLERS!
snuff for life.
Jul 6 2010 7:58PM
0 0
profile picture
selkirks
Posts: 1978 - Karma: 59
There's something wrong with NS when something like this can be defended. I said it earlier in the thread and I'll say it again. It's not about freedoms to use tobacco. It's not about the money that goes to the industry. The point is that General Tobacco's money is going toward the sponsorship of role models for youth. Youth as in under 21. Look at Momentum, where Pete is coaching this summer. Their average camper age is 16.

My point? Skiing is about active, healthful lifestyles that promote leadership, creativity, community, and friendships. It sounds cheesy, but it's true. When tobacco destroys so much of these awesome things, how can this ad be justified?

I can't wait to renounce my US citizenship and move to Revy.
Jul 7 2010 1:05AM
0 0
profile picture
unchyll
Posts: 4554 - Karma: 96

dumbest shit ive seen on newschoolers in a while. Do you ever look at the sponsors in Nascar?

Jul 7 2010 1:15AM
0 0
profile picture
thisguywhoiscool
Posts: 192 - Karma: 10
completley agree
Jul 7 2010 1:57AM
0 0
profile picture
FreeBallin
Posts: 1845 - Karma: 17
I guess that would be the difference between posters

i believe that people can make there own decisions......who am I to "hide" them from the real world?(liberal)

Others believe they need to "take charge" and make these decisions for others...by hiding/blocking/preventing. (conservative)






Jul 7 2010 6:44AM
0 0
profile picture
BryanGallant
Posts: 689 - Karma: 142
"It's something to do on the lift" - adam delorme
Jul 7 2010 6:57AM
0 0
profile picture
Bong_Master
Posts: 975 - Karma: 177
thank you. ^^ this guy has the idea. if people enjoy tobacco, let them smoke it chew it whatever. if you dont like it then just dont do it and stop bitching.

simple, huh?
Jul 7 2010 10:11AM
0 0
profile picture
smuggs
Posts: 6561 - Karma: 1,373
most of you all still very much so miss the point.


this kid looked up to olenick, now look at him, he cant even afford tall tees anymore.



Click for larger image
Jul 8 2010 3:13PM
0 0
profile picture
wesley.
Posts: 6483 - Karma: 1,049
am i the only one that agress with smuggs?
Jul 8 2010 3:17PM
0 0
profile picture
MothaHucker
Posts: 4678 - Karma: 2,589
Jonny Sievert
Jul 8 2010 3:18PM
0 0
profile picture
PG_EDA
Posts: 472 - Karma: 786
dude u need to get ur facts straight when it comes to snus... snus is nowhere near as bad as smoking ... or what u americans associate with "chew" it is completely different!
this is inside swedish snus like general, ettan, kronan, catch etc..(more or less depending on brand):
Water(around 50%), pure tobbacco, nicotine, salt, flavoring, preservatives, aromas of different kinds.
this is nothing in comparison to a cigarett or what u americans call "chew"
so its not at all as comparable to smoking as u think....

it also can not give second hand smoke or any second hand effects because u have it in ur mouth...

in sweden where snus is prefered to smoking, it is the country that has least cases of lung cancers in the whole of europe, and oral cancers are not, or at least have not till this point been directly linked to snus... and that is fact! 

snus is candy compared to cigarettes and its for people who like the taste of it and who might want a dose of nicotine once in a while, it is no where near as addictive as cigarrets are nor as addictive as "chew".

and snus is what is being advertised so dnt go back to this smoking shit...

and just for notice pete o has been snusing for alot longer then he has had the sponsorship from them....
and for all the people speaking about pete being the only one advertising snus who is a skier... u are just ignorant...
bibby just had a can out in a vid the other day....
last years mega joss vid hit colby in team america actually snuses in the vid and he talks about it in the lyrics... so why all this big deal now.... general snus had a stall by the poc stall in the denver  SIA conference thing ...

dude before u criticise snus u better read up on the stuff.....

sry for spelling grammer etc... swedish and dislexic(not a great mix for writing).....  

Jul 8 2010 7:57PM
0 0
profile picture
smuggs
Posts: 6561 - Karma: 1,373
great thesis. too bad it has nothing to do with the topic of the thread.

and maybe in snus ' a preservative' could be rat poison.
Jul 9 2010 6:25PM
0 0
profile picture
smuggs
Posts: 6561 - Karma: 1,373
bob dole says
Jul 9 2010 6:26PM
0 0
profile picture
PG_EDA
Posts: 472 - Karma: 786
how does it not have to do with this thread? i mean im adressing points which have been talked about through out this thread...

rat poison wouldnt be used as a preservative or anything near it .... the reason why people think that there is rat poison in cigarrets is because some ingredients used to manufacture rat poision is in cigarettes, but there isnt delibirate doses of rat poison in cigarettes, and most of those are used as flavorings. (none of which are in snus)

and i think u are miss entupreting me, im trying to educate u about snus before u start making too many assumptions...

i dnt mind wheter or not adds in freeskier or in other magazines are tobacco related, fine somebody young can pick up the mag and the adds have effect on them but if they dnt consider the pros cons of what they are doing before they are doing it, then they are at fault....

i dnt mind people who smoke, even though id never pick up a cigarette, but i can defanatly see people hating people who smoke in ques etc, but that just disrespectful of them and more then not people wouldnt smoke in lines.... 


Jul 9 2010 7:20PM
0 0
profile picture
Commonwealth
Posts: 3729 - Karma: 11
The point of the thread is that IT HAS NO PLACE ADVERTISING IN THIS SPORT.

Unless GT can prove that the demo of freeskiing is over 18 years old, they should not be advertising. It is against the law. Period.

Throughout this thread, those who oppose smuggs' point say that "It's their choice" or "Snus isn't as bad as smoking" or "If you fall for advertising you must be a moron".


That's not the point. The point is that it is ILLEGAL.
Jul 10 2010 1:21AM
0 0
profile picture
FreeBallin
Posts: 1845 - Karma: 17
citizens arrest...go get em killer!
Jul 10 2010 7:55AM
0 0
profile picture
smuggs
Posts: 6561 - Karma: 1,373
nearly joining the elite 10 page thread creators. ud think i was trollin
Jul 10 2010 10:45AM
0 0
profile picture
Schlop
Posts: 3640 - Karma: 24
It's just fucking sponsorships.
Jul 10 2010 11:04AM
0 0
profile picture
WikiWiki
Posts: 5584 - Karma: 426
not really- they are a company in sweden advertising on a swedish website

so basically you cant do shit about it
Jul 10 2010 11:11AM
0 0
profile picture
inactive
Posts: 4772 - Karma: 97
i move that we store all of the confiscated tobacco into smuggs asshole.
Jul 10 2010 2:15PM
0 0
profile picture
grown-ninja
Posts: 3031 - Karma: 175
if tom w or bobby b made a thread saying it makes you a better skiier......

i could car less, smoke if you wana smoke dont if you dont, dont do something because of advertising


Jul 10 2010 3:43PM
0 0
profile picture
PG_EDA
Posts: 472 - Karma: 786
solution would be to put parental advisory....

but Freeskier can consider everyones wants and needs and if its illegal to post the ad then they will find out sooner or later...
Jul 10 2010 7:04PM
0 0
profile picture
majora
Posts: 860 - Karma: 157
what'you care if other ppl smoke or pack? deal with them smelling like lounge cancer, it hardly effects you.
Jul 10 2010 7:10PM
0 0
profile picture
Nedward_Plimpton
Posts: 399 - Karma: 75
Why does smuggs call our sport "newschool" thats sounds really gay and something i think i dont want to be a part of or promoted...
Jul 10 2010 9:53PM
0 0
profile picture
C-Burg
Posts: 4729 - Karma: 130
IF YOU WANT TO SMOKE OR USE TOBACCO GO AHEAD IF NOT QUIT BITCHING. Seriously, ferrari, ducati, and until this year Team Penske in racing have been able to be sponsored by Marlboro without actually have the name on any of the cars or bikes and they bring in alot of money. In my opinion the only people who can provide more money than tobacco is oil
Jul 10 2010 10:23PM
0 0
profile picture
Dukeybrains
Posts: 1030 - Karma: 11
"In my opinion the only people who can provide more money than tobacco is oil"

I love how on newschoolers shit like that can be an opinion.
Jul 10 2010 11:19PM
0 0
profile picture
smuggs
Posts: 6561 - Karma: 1,373


peter olenicks biggest fan in the world, nicole saw an edit on freeskier.com with a general suns add and started to wonder what is snus?

then on her way into the local store, at only 3 feet off the ground, was a colorful snus add, someone might ask why its 3 feet off the ground? Do midgets snus?

Click for larger image

its sad because even at the age of 14 she thought she was immune to advertisements and cute shinny colored altoid-esque tins full of freshly chilled mint flavored tobacco product, but she was wrong. it caught her eye again as she grabbed a pack of colorful gum and winds up spending her lunch money on a tin of snus she bought from a guy drinking out front of the store, just to check it out.

Click for larger image

this girl had it all, she had the whole world ahead of her, now she does snus.....

Click for larger image
Jul 10 2010 11:33PM
0 0
profile picture
mezzy
Posts: 298 - Karma: 15
no
Jul 10 2010 11:42PM
0 0
profile picture
Ryan*
Posts: 1827 - Karma: 1,195
Chewing tobacco ads on Jon's website? Not cool. I agree with Smuggs. Keep this toxic shit out of our sport and out of our lifestyle, and keep the media and websites associated with this sport free of advertisements for it.
Jul 11 2010 1:17AM
0 0
profile picture
EmperorKuzco
Posts: 6660 - Karma: 254
Why would anyone want to promote gum disease?
Jul 11 2010 1:18AM
0 0
profile picture
FreeBallin
Posts: 1845 - Karma: 17
Why would anyone want to promote.........

Liver disease
Alcohol poisoning
Heat Disease/Obesity (fast food)
Brain lesions (DXM aka cough syrup)

You'll find ads for these all other the place/resorts. Not sure why your only banging after tobacco....if you feel this strongly against "toxic" materials in the sport and the youth...then man up and attack it all, not just one substance.

While we are at it! Lets block all edits(or music in edits) that talk mention weed/drinking/killing/purple drank etc.......since you know...its OUR sport and OUR lifestyle..and young kids have full access to all of then right here on NS! Ban Tanner/Spriggs/4bi9/clown school etc!!! They might influence young ns'ers to get into toxic materials...right? No different then your toxic tobacco ads...correct? Why arent you outraged on tanners new movie teaser then?! I mean....weed is ILLEGAL/lung cancer(maybe) and we must block our youth from seeing that coming from a legend of our sport...right?! Send him a message...let him know how you feel about your little 14 year old skier that just watched it.




Does anyone else see the bigger picture here?

Jul 11 2010 10:09AM
0 0
profile picture
FreeBallin
Posts: 1845 - Karma: 17
hey genius...why the fuck are you blaming snus first?! WHERE THE FUCK WERE HER PARENTAL FIGURES THEN!?

O I love how this world loves to blame there problems on everyone else.....instead of looking at themselves and there own decisions.
Jul 11 2010 10:19AM
0 0
profile picture
smuggs
Posts: 6561 - Karma: 1,373
OH THE IRONY!


i like how you just put the blame on "there" parents, and not actually on the child making the decision. glad you liked my story though.
Jul 11 2010 10:55AM
0 0
profile picture
FreeBallin
Posts: 1845 - Karma: 17
Or how about the drunk that sold it to her..or the store that lets him sit out front and do it? Or the police that arent stopping it?

Gotta love the blame game.

how do you feel about banning anything legal/toxic here on NS? such as edits/songs/skiers?
Jul 11 2010 11:02AM
0 0
profile picture
FreeBallin
Posts: 1845 - Karma: 17
*illegal whhhoooppppsss
Jul 11 2010 11:05AM
0 0
profile picture
FreeBallin
Posts: 1845 - Karma: 17
Smuggs this is directed at you

Considering NS does not have an age requirement, do you believe that that NS staff should be banning/blocking/booting anyone(pro or not) who places material(edits, songs,media, thread posts whatever) on here that refer to illegal/or addictive/ or toxic substances that could be abused? This would include references to tobacco, weed, underage binge drinking, rap songs in edits talking about murder, gang hand signs etc.

As we all know, many younger skiers look up to certain other skiers, and this could be directly influencing then.

I also recognize that advertisements are for profit, where SOME skiing stuff would just be for entertainment. But, if you want to get real picky, explain Tanners new movie or 4bi9. They are producing ski movies/clothing for a profit also(much smaller scale of course..and much deserved).

So, why arent you also directly attacking newschoolers staff for allowing this to happen on there site in which youths are apart of?

Jul 11 2010 12:01PM
0 0
profile picture
Commonwealth
Posts: 3729 - Karma: 11
Wrong
Jul 11 2010 12:30PM
0 0
profile picture
smuggs
Posts: 6561 - Karma: 1,373
It has been discussed in this shit show of a thread that newschoolers.com somehow has an average age of like 22, so this means that technically you could advertise anything on here. but then like someone said peter olenick is sitting up in whistler with a bunch of 15 year olds around him that's hard to agree with.

and i haven't seen a general suns add on ns.com, this whole thread was for awareness of d' evils (tobacco) that are somehow infecting the sport dominated by children.

like i said before, how do you explain the low level signs, tobacco next to candy, colorful tins? its all to get kids attention. and the more you see/use it the less you notice how bad it is.

Jul 11 2010 1:08PM
0 0
profile picture
Thenowhereman42
Posts: 5682 - Karma: 65
Wow guys are you all still being huge pussies in here? Its been like a month. Shouldn't you have moved on to endangered pandas now or something?
Jul 11 2010 5:06PM
0 0
profile picture
jibbpeter
Posts: 1613 - Karma: 4,083
i have a bif fat snus in my lip now...and it feels pretty damn good! lol
Jul 11 2010 5:11PM
0 0
profile picture
PG_EDA
Posts: 472 - Karma: 786
i will be joining u in a second! we are such rebels :P
Jul 11 2010 5:16PM
0 0
profile picture
neverlookingback
Posts: 198 - Karma: 16
LOL @ THREAD
Jul 11 2010 5:20PM
0 0
profile picture
-ROY-
Posts: 3633 - Karma: 1,503
dang 9 bucks for a pack of camels..f that noise.

thread now about cigarette prices in your area.

marlboro- 6 bones
Jul 11 2010 6:10PM
0 0
profile picture
FreeBallin
Posts: 1845 - Karma: 17
down in GA Marbs $5.37 wooooooooooo i love visiting the south! haha
Jul 11 2010 6:12PM
0 0
profile picture
mophead
Posts: 1172 - Karma: 309
logan walker
i honestly wouldnt mind if they advertised blunt wraps though
Jul 11 2010 7:11PM
0 0
profile picture
jibbpeter
Posts: 1613 - Karma: 4,083
indeed haha :P
Jul 11 2010 11:02PM
0 0
profile picture
.peter
Posts: 1222 - Karma: 63
I will fight to protect the rights of those being oppressed or restricted by others... that includes smoking.
If you can't deal with a little smoke in a bar you can fuck off and drink your mikes hard lemonade in you're vacume sealed house.
keep your ideals out of and away from my and everyone else's body.

Oh and fun fact, the leading causes of death are weight related. that means heart disease, diabetes etc...
If you were really concerned for people's well being you'd be boycotting fast food, soda and energy drinks. Live the life you want to and don't try to control other people because that's what you're trying to do.
Jul 11 2010 11:20PM
0 0
profile picture
timmypearsonEC
Posts: 440 - Karma: 13
marbs are like fucking 8.22 with tax in mass, the drive to nh is so worth it.
Jul 11 2010 11:52PM
0 0
profile picture
smuggs
Posts: 6561 - Karma: 1,373
10 PAGES OF (______) !
Jul 12 2010 12:47AM
0 0
All times are Eastern (-4)