Line Cronic Wide 177cm w/ Pivogy Line Bindings

pictures will help you with your sale.

You're probably better off selling the skis separately and the bindings as memorabilia.

post pics

Holy shit line reactor bindings?! I thought they all melted down

thats what i was thinking. skiing history right thurrrrr.

when did they stop making these? back in 2000 (ish) is what getboards told me, but why did Line stop making bindings?

they look really REALLY werid, on getboards and with that plate thing? someone explain these, or POST PICS!! because i am REALLY curious about these.

Crazy, I had those bindings back in the day with my chronics, then one day I looked down and the toe piece fell off!

Crazy, I had those bindings back in the day with my chronics, then one day I looked down and the toe piece fell off!

They were really heavy bindings, and they fell apart too easily, like the person above me stated haha.

A great concept, but poor execution

i wanna see some pics :*(

Don't mean to completely threadjack here but,

They were only in production for a couple years, I want to say 03-05. Basically Line had two pretty innovative ideas.

1) Pre drill all of their skis with 4 threaded inserts similar to the way snowboards are made. The idea was that the binding could be set to your boots and swapped between any Line skis you owned simply by removing four screws. This way if you had a quiver of Line skis you only needed one binding to share between them.

2) Make a binding that released safer when spinning and landing switch. I can't remember if the bindings actually had a laterally releasing heel or if they just had a heel that rotated a certain amount to help reduce knee injuries when falling on a twisting switch landing.

While both ideas were great, Line unfortunately had a huge issue with binding durability and being an awesome company, they warrantied and refunded tons of these for people. I'm guessing the financial strain on Line is what caused the binding to be cut from production rather than improved upon and re-released. Now, that being said not all of the bindings blew up instantly. I remember reading about a number of members who claimed to have put these bindings through a good beating and they still held up, However, after so many of these bindings fell apart or blew up, Line killed production of them. Definitely a piece of freeskiing history.

Definitely seemed like i could idea, now when were they bought by K2? (does K2 even own them? i dont follow who owns who, dont really care) but if K2 does own them, why doesn't K2 re-invent that concept, because with a one binding for a 3 ski quiver would BE SO NICE!! but then again, with every company gunning to get as much sales as possible, having something as practical as this, would really do much to Line, except get REALLY good reviews and reputation.

And same here, sorry to thread jack, but something this cool, i have to get clued in.

K2 does currently own line (as of 2006 or 07). A few reasons why I can think that they haven't tried to redo this concept: As someone said above the line binding was pretty darn heavy and this was a big gripe many people had with the binding. I think a good bit of this weight had to do with the toe and heel piece being connected by the mounting plate that the screws went through. Also, K2 currently has an exclusive deal with Marker producing all the bindings that are included with their system skis. So, in order for K2  to make a binding they would either have to break the tie with Marker or get Marker on board to produce a new binding.

Currently, K2 and Marker have adapted a somewhat similar system with the Marker Schizo binding where K2 sells predrilled skis (extreme, kung fujas, obsethed and the hellbent) that have very similar snowboard type threaded metal inserts already laid in the skis and come packaged with Marker Griffon Schizo bindings that just screw into these pre drilled inserts. Nearly identical to the system Line used. However, as of now you can't buy the pre drilled skis separately from the compatible Marker Schizo bindings, they only come as a set together. Further, the way these bindings screw into the new K2 skis isn't designed around a quick on/off method like the Line bindings were. It is more of a design made to strengthen the screws grip on the skis to prevent heels or toes from ripping out of the ski. In order to get the bindings off you really need to uninstall them as opposed to just removing 4 screws and pulling the bindings off.

Here's a really old link to the Reactor binding so you can get a further explanation and some pictures.

http://www.lineskis.co.uk/h/n/BUY/hardware/ALL/108/

Yeah, i can understand the weight thing and because my look PX's are probably half of all that line binding and they are HEAVY!!!! so i can undestand but then again, the marker duke is no feather either, the reason its in production its because of its unique features, but idk. Now that i think about it, if i had to choose between these and a pair of FKS, i would most likely pick the FKS. But K2 pairing with Marker was a smart idea, youre right about how its a similar concept with the snowboard style holes in the ski, keeps the ski's overall inegraty (not that it would be an issue to being with, having normal flat skis) but idk, you would think Line would want some percent in the market, but then again with how popular they are, especially on NS, i doubt they are suffering, hahha

Thanks for educating me. I always find old and different concepts really cool, because there is always so way to maybe bring it back or improve upon it.

But yeah, sorry for thread jacking.

holy thread jack guys.

i am bumping this because i talked to Sully today.  Who is a long time NS'er but had to make a new account.  Please check my account to verify feedback!    He is my boy back from HS and is legit....and half the reason im on NS.  Anyways this stuff is still for sale and he is open to offers!  The line bindings which i saw over break are in pristine condition for any collector :) and these skis really are in amazing shape 9/10.  

here is a pic of them with sully, jay, EP, and me from years ago.

bump!! these skis have never been drilled due to the fact that they had line bindings on them with the 4 hole pattern.  PM me with offers or post them in the thread. 

k2 owns line?????????