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Binding rip out ski stores fault?

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MANDER
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So I have been skiing my JO Pros with Mojo 11s for about 2 seasons now and I love them. They have never given me any problems aside from a few core shots. Then one day I was skiing switch and my brake randomly breaks (I know we have all had this happen.) So I take it to my local shop. They are a small company and really legit. They really know their stuff and I always go to them first. They didn't have Head or Tyrolia brakes so I took it back to my home town (Toronto) and brought them to the big overpriced chain store. They charged me $30 and I was pretty pissed for a simple brake change but I had no other options. Fast forward to the weekend. I was skiing around the park with some friends and land way too forward on a 5. A simple double ejection would have done, but the heel piece on the same ski they fixed rips out. My question is did they strip the screws or do something incorrectly to cause this or was I just getting too big for these plastic relatively low din bindings.

Spark Notes: Right after getting binding fixed from large chain shop, heel piece rips out. Whose fault is it?
Feb 13 2010 8:46PM
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nathanielstyza
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unfortunately for you, that is probably all your fault. landing too far forward results in binding rip outs.
Feb 13 2010 9:00PM
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hellomynameisjef
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go complain and see if you can get free stuff
Feb 13 2010 9:00PM
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Lemuel
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the lower end tyrolia bindings are the shittiest designed bindings I have ever seen.  The screws that hold the bindings down are also the screws that hold the binding onto the ski.  So when you brake a break, you have to unscrew the whole binding from the ski, which you probably didn't realize.  Terrible design flaw.  My friend had the 12 din tyrolias and he had to replace the brake like 5 times, and when they fell off the last time, I realized that the screws for the brakes are the screws for the binding.
Feb 13 2010 9:14PM
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TimmyK
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There was a chance a hole was stripped it happens sometimes when remounting in the same hole, with a power driver, I prefer to do remounts by hand to prevent this, but even by hand it could strip.  Now it also was how you landed, the combination definitely would rip a binding off.   You could go back and tell them and have them put inserts in to replace the stripped hole.
Feb 15 2010 12:23PM
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axebiker
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2 year old skis - shit happens.  If it was a fresh mount, maybe, but it's not, and you had some damage done prior to them touching it.  Suck it up - it's your problem, not theirs.  When you dicked up your brake, you could've potentially damaged a hole.  Replacing a brake would not cause any issues with your bindings ripping out.  Period.

(Yes, I was a tech.)
Feb 15 2010 6:18PM
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axebiker
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I didn't read that there was a remount anywhere, and this binding would not need to be remounted to replace a brake.

I agree with what you said in regards to remounting in the same holes (hand vs. driver), but the shop has NO liability here.  BTW - riding switch is usually a death sentence for brakes if you hit anything with them as it is against the spring load.  That's just how it is.
Feb 15 2010 6:23PM
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GNARBARSTAR
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if you have never touched one of these bindings in person you wouldn't know that you have to take the 2 front screws out of the heal piece which go directly into the ski to take off the brake, meaning you are re-using the old holes. not a re-mount which would be brand new holes. different position,

to the op. there is a possibility that the holes stripped when they re-installed the front 2 screws any legit shop would tell you that the holes stripped and would heli-coil them and not let you go ski on them and tear your binding out. i would go to talk to the shop let them know what happened like a civilized person, and see what they offer to do for you.
Feb 15 2010 7:19PM
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axebiker
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Oops!  Yep - you're right.  I was thinking Sali.  I haven't mounted a Tyrolia in a couple years other than the rail mounts. 
Feb 15 2010 7:24PM
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