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Lil Wayne Fans and Haters

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tommycat
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I was once a hater of Lil Wayne, but i thought The Carter lll was good. Then I saw this and my opinions changed. If you can watch the whole thing and say your opinion of Lil Wayne hasn't, then my hat goes off to you, you're one stubborn motherfucker. Enjoy.


Jan 29 2010 6:30PM
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Mr.Panda
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Eh, it sounds good but being more of a rock fan really outside of Eminem, Mos Def, and one or two others here or there I don't listen to much hip hop or rap really so my opinion probably isn't that good.
Jan 29 2010 11:42PM
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GILLSKI
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can ox is the shit.  around the same hood im from to.  Luckily im out that shithole now lol
Jan 30 2010 12:35AM
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krystoff
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jea, 1983 blows my mind everytime. and i never delved too deep in to dosh but just the fact that people know who he is excites me.

also to any other readers of this thread who know hip hop, which every body does in their own mind, i have mixed feelings about the art form. i was first introduced properly (outside of swollen members lol) by wu tang, Biggie, and more memorably qwel/ typical cats. idk your feelings on teh cats and such but nowadays, i'm only feelin DOOM, i've tried to branch into genres that my friends likes i.e. atmosphere, brotha ali, macklemore, etc. and it's not that i don't like or have respect for their shiii, but just not on the same level as DOOM i guess. so what or who should i be looking at, because i don't want to write off hip hop.
Jan 30 2010 12:44AM
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slimbruddah
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   Useless, know whats up?


  Well, I go to a club, I listen to the music, the music is telling me to get fucked up do dumb shit fuck bitches not give a fuck and love money.

 Yeah, it aint knowledgeable to respect someone who's against that shit.

 And yeah, little wayne is completely different. He's part of the sold out weak ass souls who can rap.

 And no, it's not that he sucks that pisses me off.

 It's that he fucking pushes the worst message possible to the youth of our world.

 A young person cares too much about what's cool cause they aint wise. And teaching a young soft mind, to love money, and uh

 how the fuck about this golden piece of advice for our youth

 "shut up bitch swallow, if you can't swallow, shut up bitch gargle."


 Yeah fucking great.


 There is real hip hop. And ABUSED HIP HOP raped by the powerful. And boy did they rape the genre


 BUT, wait, there is ONE song i have heard that i respected him a little cause he was speaking real. It surprised me and confused me. It was Hollywood Divorce with Outkast.

 But he is still a tool to push negative views on the young.


 
Jan 30 2010 1:00AM
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saranac_tortex
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This
Jan 30 2010 2:02PM
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karmagod
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HAha seriously?? That documentary was trash.
Jan 30 2010 2:04PM
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tommycat
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You know what it's about. Music's all different and it takes an open mind to be able to appreciate all of it for the art that it is. +k
sick song too.
Jan 30 2010 4:33PM
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tommycat
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I understand what you're saying, he does put out a negative message. However, if you look at it from another light, he's telling the youth, you work hard, you spend everyday working your ass off the way he does, you're gonna be successful. That's what i hear when i listen to Lil Wayne.


To me, if you're stupid enough to take what someone says to heart and follow it, then you deserve the repercussions of your actions.
Jan 30 2010 5:05PM
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Logey.
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if hes all about money why would he be in the studio ALL the time? why would he do underground albums? if ur saying hes all about money.. what do you think about 50 cent? and other rappers? lil waynes just made it big because people obviously like him. your just another case of an ignorant nigga haha
Jan 30 2010 7:53PM
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saranac_tortex
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...because he wants to make more money...?

When someone puts out 1000 songs over three years you know its all about sales and not about quality for him.
Jan 30 2010 8:01PM
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Logey.
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so what your saying is that any rapper that makes alot of songs and has alot of studio time is automatically doing it for the money? so if a rapper that hasnt made shit that makes a thousand songs and just sits in the studio all day rapping is doing it for the money? there just trying to make it big like lil wayne and lil wayne is doing what he obviously loves to do otherwise he wouldnt make all the underground albums and make 1000 songs in a couple years
Jan 30 2010 8:10PM
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srtmc5430
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how was the documentary supposed to change our opinion on him...
Jan 30 2010 8:20PM
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Dosh
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they didn't rape the genre. not much music coming out that i enjoy these days anyway. i have my favorites and constantly will be coming back to them to listen again and again. my preferences would be for the 90s new york east coast sound. i am all for the intellectual rap, but it's not what i am going to play when i am trying to relax on the weekend. i used to be all about it, but it got old. i like something in between wayne and can ox now. that's why all your favorite artists are around making music now. if you asked them who their biggest influences were or their favorite group was, i guarantee that theyd name someone from the early-mid 90s. i have a solid enough base of hip-hop favorites that i don't need to take the super indignant underground head line every time that lil wayne comes up in a discussion. the fact that anyone would get so pissed off about him tells me that you don't listen to that much hip-hop at all. b/c if you did, i doubt it would bother you so much. your artists are doing their thing and wayne is definitely doing his. hes not going to affect the fans of rhymesayers or def jux, etc. and kids are going to hear about all the evils wayne raps about one way or another. sheltering them from all of that is not helpful in the long run. i am curious though as to who your top ten artists are.
Jan 30 2010 8:25PM
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slimbruddah
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    You call that success?

 I'm sick of this, you make money, that's success. That isnt success in life. Money gets you nothing but material.

  "he's sooooooooo successful he sold a billion records and went quadruple platinum."

 bullshit.

 You can spoon feed any type of shit to the masses through mainstream media. They'll eat that right up. Open up yer mouths, in comes the airplane!!!!!


  He is rich because someone richer then him wanted to use him for their own good. That isn't being real. Using someone.

Same shit as hanging out with the kid who has the newest video games. You're not truly his friend, but damn, he has some sweet video games and a big screen tv, so yeah ill hang out with him.
Jan 31 2010 2:55AM
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slimbruddah
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 Yeah they did cause the people who hate rap only hear the bullshit on the radio. They don't even know what hip hop is.

 They took it, changed it, just to make money. Raped it for their own pleasure.

 
Jan 31 2010 2:57AM
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slimbruddah
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   We pop bottlez. Shut up bitch swallow. I',m a millionaire. I have mad cars mad girls im mad fly. I got the sickest shit ever. You're nothin unless you dont have that paper.

Money on my mind. All about the money. Hard as a mah fuckah. We dont be showin no love. 

 Seconds minutes hours go to the all mighty dollar. (LOL)

 Sicillian bitch with long hair, with coke in her derrier.

 Don't you hate a shy bitch? man i ate a shy bitch.



   Yeah SON. I'm the ignorant one.

 
Jan 31 2010 3:03AM
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k-rob
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herp derp poppin bottles derp.
Jan 31 2010 3:19AM
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Dosh
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what do you listen to the most?
Jan 31 2010 12:44PM
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slimbruddah
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 Any mc who has talent who isnt a bragging little child. Any mc who understands what being an mc is. 

 I try to find new stuff i havent heard so there isnt a most.
Jan 31 2010 2:33PM
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Ben.
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regardless of whether you like it or not, dude loves his job and works harder than almost anyone in the game. all he does is make music, its what he loves its what he lives.

"But lemme show 'em why I'm a lot different from everybody else.
Because...and what I mean by everybody else I mean everybody else that does what we does.
You know, this recordin' industry, music, thing.
What I do is, I don't go out to the clubs.
And when you do see me in the club, trust me, I have been paid to be there for those thirty minutes that you enjoyed with me.
I don't stay inside for nothin' couse my house is nice.
I don't just get in my cars and just ride around neighborhoods where no girls are at, because my car is nice.
I don't do that.
What I do is, I go to studio.
And I just stay in the studio.
See you have to understand the difference.
The difference between me and you is to you, this is your job.
To me, this is my life.
The club; that's my job.
The mall; that's my job.
Your neighborhood; that's my job.
This studio; this is my life.
This is what I do better than anything.
So why wouldn't I do this all the time?"
Jan 31 2010 2:44PM
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fillup
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You sound like a huge fucking pussy,

Man the fuck up. You think making music about pussy, drugs, and violence is new?
Jan 31 2010 2:46PM
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slimbruddah
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     Man I was wondering where u were at. Man the fuck up eh.

    K what do I have to do to become a man? Ignore the problems of the world? Worry about my own little box?

  Come on man. I'm trying to help. Everything I post on this here internet is an effort to try and open one mind. But hey I could be wrong with my intentions. Maybe those intentions make me a bitch. Make me a pussy for swimmin against the stream.

 Tell me man, tell me. What do i need to do to not be a pussy? Come on man. Answer up. Gimmi some advice. 
Jan 31 2010 3:24PM
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fillup
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Maybe instead of trying to change the world you could change yourself and lead by example, right? But throwing your opinions around is alot of fun isnt it.

People can think what they want, and that holds true to you and to people you think are idiots for listening to what they want to.




My main point is you are going to have a long road ahead of you if you want to stand up against everything you think is wrong. Especially music.
Jan 31 2010 3:32PM
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Dosh
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i am in your camp for sure. slimbruddah is not some kind of martyr for standing up against commercial hip-hop like he thinks he is and wants to be. once you turn 20, you realize that it's impossible to do and you're going to be miserable attempting that b/c you will always be on the fringes looking in. not saying you have to agree with or like that type of music but you aren't going to change it and sound like a broken record every time you bring up that whole point. it's mad annoying and preachy. hip-hop is still alive and well despite artists like wayne. the classics will never die and as long as you are into them, hip-hop is just fine.
Jan 31 2010 3:38PM
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antwone
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:D
Jan 31 2010 3:39PM
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slimbruddah
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 I see what ur saying.

 And it`s not just music. I just understand life isnt about money and getting fucked up every weekend. Just want people to understand. especially the young

 But yeah, the internet just turns me into a preacher. I say something, to someone else, easily can just be considered cheap talk.

 Just dont know what i gotta do.

 im outta here pc
Jan 31 2010 3:45PM
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slimbruddah
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and dude i dont look at is as fun or gettin high off what i think. thats not what it is
Jan 31 2010 3:46PM
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tbear3
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lil wayne has absolutely no lyrical skill whatsoever. he rhymes the stupidest shit that anyone could make up. He cant even touch skilled rappers. he also steals rhymes and beats from other artists.  Lil wayne is horrible for hip hop
Jan 31 2010 3:52PM
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Click_Here
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a millie lil mama.  far greater than waynes

Jan 31 2010 4:03PM
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Logey.
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holyy shit thank youu. thats what ive been trying to say but no one wants to listen to me.
Jan 31 2010 6:16PM
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Logey.
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and tell me one rapper that doesnt talk about sex and drugs and guns? hes just trying to ryhme..
Jan 31 2010 6:20PM
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saranac_tortex
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Wow is all I'm going to say...You're just setting yourself up on this one man

I could name sooo many that don't rap about that stuff. You need to get educated man, seriously
Jan 31 2010 6:43PM
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Logey.
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name 5 well known rappers,, id like to here this
Jan 31 2010 10:49PM
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ElbridgeGerry
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Dead Prez, Sadistik, Blue Scholars, Lupe Fiasco, Nas
Jan 31 2010 11:07PM
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Ben.
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2, maybe 3 of those are well known. im 99% sure lupe has rapped about money, and women, maybe not guns, im sure weed.

nas i KNOW has.
Jan 31 2010 11:09PM
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Logey.
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listen to little weapon by lupe fiasco, and nas? seriously? kay u got me with blue scholars i think i havent listened to very much, but dead prez? sadistik? who?
Jan 31 2010 11:15PM
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ElbridgeGerry
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I think when that kid was talking about guns money and weed they were like 'yeaaiiii boiiii, I smoke weed errday cause I fuck bitches n get money. Pop pop nigga, you gonna get clapped up'

Nas is generally a pretty socially conscious, Nigger was actually a really good album.
Jan 31 2010 11:24PM
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.AR6rider
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sick thread ill save it for later
Jan 31 2010 11:38PM
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shredderbro
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im a fan.
and this has been a good read, a legitimate argument about weezy on ns...... not just WAYNE SO GOOD !!!11! or FUCK LIL WAYN3



threads for later
Jan 31 2010 11:51PM
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andersteeze
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I watched the whole thing and it didnt generate a whole lot of new respect from me.

My final word is whatever the guy does his thing

Feb 1 2010 12:04AM
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gakc
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im one stubborn mother fucker cus i watched the whole thing and hate him just as much :)
Feb 1 2010 12:08AM
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lawlz.
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the documentary was cool, thanks for posting this. the man is smart and talented, I'm a fan of his music and respect his attitude. 
I just don't understand how someone could be fucked up constantly. I mean...I love to party and bullshit, but he was blazing in just about every scene.
Feb 1 2010 3:39AM
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powderhound100
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gonna check this out tommorow.
Feb 1 2010 3:55AM
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DedicatedPicturs
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I loled.
Feb 1 2010 8:27AM
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epic_line
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Hahaha rich white kids think there cool cause they listen to Lil Wayne. Man's a fucking dumb ass douche pussy, he shot himself....

haft of his rymes use the same word 3 or so times to make it ryme. You guys need to listen to some reall rap like Mac Dre, Easy E, Spice, South Central Cartel and rakim
Feb 1 2010 9:35AM
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PilleDaKid
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People love to hate lil wayne, end of story. If he is such a fool why don't you guys stop s'ing on his d so much.
Feb 1 2010 10:37AM
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PilleDaKid
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You guys like BIG? Im pretty sure he rapped about money, bitches, and drugs. I see no hate towards him.
Feb 1 2010 10:39AM
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Dobies.
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yo garfield your a fucking faggot noone likes you on this site. - k
Feb 1 2010 11:06AM
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epic_line
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BIG had flow and talent. Lil Wayne has his gay sounds and no talent or flow what so every, he is ruining music.
Feb 1 2010 11:08AM
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saranac_tortex
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Blackalicious, Blu & exile, Slug(from atmosphere), MF DOOM, sadistik, sweatshop union, KRS-One, Buckshot, Immortal Technique, Lupe to an extent I can name more
Feb 1 2010 11:14AM
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