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Switch or fakie

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beaucottington
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skiing backwards should be referred to as fakie not switch.

switch, is opposite of your naturally inclined direction of spinning.
I am sure most of you will agree everyone has one way their body likes to turn,
the other way feels weird and it obviously not your naturally inclined direction of motion.

boardsports have frontside or backside, but since we are facing forward we start at zero.
you can learn to be comfortable spinning both directions, but naturally you are inclined to turn in one direction better than the other. Just as almost all humans have one dominant hand, eye, and foot.
that is all relative to this.

Fakie comes from skateboarding, in line skating, and even bmx now.
I dont see how skiing has adapted it incorrectly, confusing it with switch.
what do you call a switch spin? left or right turn?
Jan 3 2010 4:26PM
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EMK
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but we did borrow words, just we did it wrong.
Sep 26 2010 12:47PM
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Mr.DarthVader
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its switch fakie is like skateboarding or something
Sep 26 2010 12:57PM
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binturong-qwerty
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Andy Parry



But seriously it is switch
why should we use the same names as other sports
is it because you want skiing to go mianstream
I for one dont want that to happen
Sure A little money into the sport isnt the worst thing in the world but I dont want skiing to sell out
Sep 26 2010 1:00PM
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EMK
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If Andy parry named all the ski tricks they would make perfect sense, he used to skiboard(possibly rollerblade too?) and they managed to get the names right.
BUt seriously, it is switch and thats unfortunate. if we didn't want to steal words from other sports we shouldn't have but we did and changed the meaning, you don't just change the meaning of any old word everyday so why did they do it for skiing? As for your rant about selling out, all i can think about it is "what?"
Sep 26 2010 3:13PM
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bfnradford
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fakie comes from skateboarding it means going switch but using your good ollie foot which would be your front foot if you are doing a fakie trick. Unless you hit the jump switch and ollie off of your tails as you leave the jump you cant do fakie tricks skiing. that being said, skiing in reverse is hecka fun
Sep 26 2010 5:28PM
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binturong-qwerty
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if you havent noticed yet
when i said andy parry i was joking due to the fact that he he always thinks up funny names for tricks (i.e. bindsoul, hippy killer, jackinfe tip dip, etc.)
Sep 26 2010 5:39PM
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EMK
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No i knew what you meant but i sort of meant like if only he did decide what we called it.
Sep 26 2010 5:48PM
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Poudreblanche
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cab
Sep 26 2010 6:03PM
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x0r0r
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underflip in FMX is off-axis backflip and they don't land backwards. Each sport has its own right to name tricks. 100% of skiers uses 'switch' and personally you, OP, may use only fakie if you want, but dont' try to obtrude you opinion. keep it for yourself.
Sep 27 2010 10:46AM
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RubberSoul
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haha i know, i checked the date as soon as i read the title
Sep 27 2010 3:22PM
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TheHundreds
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cab 900
Sep 27 2010 7:58PM
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Dwight_Schrute
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There's this magical new term called "backwards".
Sep 27 2010 8:07PM
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holyDINOSAURS
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haha i know thank you.

and no. fakie is switch nollie. can you ski nollie? no.

unless your riding backwards and popping off your tails then no you cant do anything fakie.

switch = opposite of naturally inclined direction of riding. i skate goofy, hence switch is left foot forward. i naturally ski forward, hence switch is backwards.

cab is a trick. half-cab, full-cab, cab 5 etc.
Sep 27 2010 8:41PM
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deleted5
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fake on a skate board does not even mean your going backwards i didnt read the thread so idk if that was said or not
Sep 27 2010 8:45PM
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L.U.P.E.
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you suck, and spining to the side your less comfortable with is called unatural not swich......again you suck
Sep 27 2010 8:48PM
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beaucottington
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ok I see where you are coming from and you make a great case, but fakie does not necessarily only reference the tail slap as its means of definition. for example BMX and inline both use the term too, and to both it means to go backwards. On a board it is more complicated, but you can ride fakie WITHOUT doing an ollie, so your point is not exactly accurate. It is more about foot position on a deck, which is not really applicable to skiing, inline or bmx.

saying this again, but...
Switch and Unnatural essentially mean the same thing. If you are goofy, riding regular is switch. If you are right handed, writing with your left hand is switch. If you are right footed, most cases you have a natural inclination to turn to the left opposed to the right. Turning the opposite way of you natural inclination is more sketchy, less comfortable, OR your switch. Whether right or left is switch or natural depends on the rider... but other than which shoulder you look over, there is only one way to ride backwards. So in the end fakie makes the most sense, and it is consistant with every other action sports definition of going backwards.

Cab is a trick (fakie 360)
people have adapted it to mean fakie generally, but technically you are correct it is a fakie 360.

Oct 7 2010 3:17PM
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beaucottington
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do us a favor and don't speak.
Oct 7 2010 3:18PM
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beaucottington
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keep your faulty info to yourself tough guy, 100% of skiers DO NOT use switch to define fakie riding. i think this thread makes that obvious.
Oct 7 2010 3:27PM
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Dan-Man
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this needs a bump.


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skiers sound like dip shitz calling fakie switch, it's gotten to the point that it seriously bothers me.

great thread.

FAKIE plz FAKIE end this nonsense 4 the sake of the youth.

switch=hard spinning direction, or if you wanta sound like a dip shit unnatural.

FAKIE



Mar 19 2014 10:33PM
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boppin
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Its switch.

Switch makes sense. Cause your riding switched around.

Fakie makes no sense at all.

Spinning and sliding the hard way is unnatural

because its the unnatural way for you to do it.

Makes sense?

yes
Mar 19 2014 10:47PM
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GANGBANG420
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It's T H E S W I T C H. End of story
Mar 19 2014 11:02PM
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Dan-Man
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needed a vamp
Mar 25 2014 1:45PM
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KneeDrop
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howa bout left and right for spinning? unnatty is older than this thread, and increasingly irrelevant.. and call skiing backwards whatever you want slong as the point is made, just stop tryin to tell 50% of us we're wrong, you sound like a douche..

my main point:why does it still fucking matter to anyone?

Mar 25 2014 2:07PM
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galardogod
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Guys its called doing the switch
Mar 25 2014 2:10PM
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KneeDrop
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and if you're calling an unnatural/right or left 540 a "switch 5", it'll be you sounding like "dip shitz"

at least to anyone i ever ski with

Mar 25 2014 2:14PM
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MEDSKI.XXX
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Get off ns you god damn soft booter
Mar 25 2014 3:09PM
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DUCKS
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We should just start calling it 'the reverse' because that's what cars do.
Mar 25 2014 3:26PM
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jensen
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No, no, no, no, jesus no.

It is called switch. If you really want to get technical about it and use skateboarding as an example to skiing lets go there:

Regular = forward take off, normal pop
Switch = backward take off, normal pop
Nollie = forward take off, pop off noses (downhill)
Fakie = backward take off, pop off tails (downhill)

You're an idiot. What sport has switch associated with what direction they are spinning?
Mar 25 2014 4:30PM
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jensen
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Further, the term "cab" comes from Steve Caballero and the "Caballero" which was a fakie frontside 360 on a skateboard. Half-cab evolved to a fakie frontside 180 on a skateboard.

Snowboarders took "cab" and dropped the need to pop the board in a certain way (ie. fakie pop) and the term "cab" became any switch frontside spin.

If skiers want to use the term tab (which I don't think we should because it has gone too far from the original meaning), the closest thing would be a switch natural spin. I say this because switch frontside is generally regarded as being much easier than switch backside on a snowboard, hence skiing switch natural.

Either way swich is switch. You can call it fakie if you want but switch is more correct.

/thread
Mar 25 2014 4:37PM
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ANDR01D
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Inb4 OP tries to rename safety grabs because they're not safe or mute grabs because you can still talk while doing one.
Mar 25 2014 4:59PM
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Dan-Man
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lets just all start calling it ASS FIRST
Mar 25 2014 5:42PM
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theabortionator
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Not sure why this was bumped but what are you smoking OP. I pray this thread was made as a joke long ago and humanity has some hope left after all.

If not I must say that it's one thing to reply to somebody and be wrong, it's another thing to create a thread simply to point out how wrong you are on a topic nobody was arguing.

OP hasn't mastered the switch
Mar 25 2014 5:51PM
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KneeDrop
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i do remember a push for BIF, anagram for "brown eye first"....

i was always partial to it

Mar 26 2014 11:22AM
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GANGBANG420
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T H E SWITCH
Apr 1 2014 11:45PM
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