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Messed up shoulders

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marsland
Posts: 3150 - Karma: 421
hokay so a year and a half ago i dislocated my shoulder for the first time.  skating, i suck at skating.  did my pt and everything they told me, it was fine until this year when it happened again longboarding.  i went to my doctor and he gave me the surgical preparation sheet, which i was not happy about.  since this summer, its come out more than 20 times, including multiple times pretty much every day for the past week. 
my questions are: how much permanant damage can i do to my shoulder by just letting it go for the time being and continuing skiing?  i really dont wanna sit out this whole season since i missed the end of last year, and the pain is bearable and i can usually ride after like 5 minutes of sitting out?
and how is the surgery for repairing a dislocated shoulder.  the doctor told me that its like 2 months in a sling, then 2 months of hard PT.  im concerned about my motivation to go to class if im fucked up or have to do a ton of physical therapy.
if i come up wtih any more questions ill post them in here
Dec 20 2009 12:16AM
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Cortez
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too long didnt read
Dec 20 2009 12:27AM
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DDrem.
Posts: 3552 - Karma: 24
i havent dealt with surgery, but ive fucked up my shoulders a whole lot.
left shoulder: dislocated (x2), torn bicep at the head of the muscle, bersitis (?), contusions (gnar bruises)
right shoulder: dislocated (x2), type 2 separation, torn rotator cuff, contusions
basically, if i throw a ball more than once or twice, it hurts like shit
im not really sure how bad you can damage it, so id say shred on, but if youre hurting yourself then youll know to do the right thing
good luck, hope that helped
Dec 20 2009 12:29AM
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jason...
Posts: 9006 - Karma: 780
The longer you wait, the longer your recovery will be. Just get the surgery, you'll be better off in the long run.
Dec 20 2009 12:30AM
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D-Ross
Posts: 308 - Karma: 16
My brother' shoulder separated when he was skiing and he had to have surgery which wasn't that bad or intrusive. To be frank, I would get the surgery asap. I think that if you don't get it, you could further hurt your shoulder so that the recovery time is super long. If you do, you might be out for the ski season, but there's always next year when you know that it's A-ok to do work on the slopes
Dec 20 2009 12:34AM
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zuzanna
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hah
Dec 20 2009 12:35AM
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Elijah.
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Once you separate your shoulder once, it just becomes super easy to dislocate/separate. It only gets worse (sounds like you have it really bad). I think surgery is the only thing that can help you get back to being able to keep it in.
Dec 20 2009 2:14AM
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clandemush
Posts: 589 - Karma: 53
i separated my shoulder two summers ago, and when it still was bothering me more than a year later i thought that shit was never going to feel 100 percent again.. but now it feels absolutely fine

not nearly as intense as your situation but im just saying that injuries always seem to me like they continue forever but eventually they will heal, hopefully
Dec 20 2009 2:22AM
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.travis.
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I feel your pain. The same thing happens to me. My shoulder has popped out at least 20 something times since last winter but i never went to the doctor. I usually just pop it back in and then go back to doing what i was doing. then about 2 weeks ago it popped out so bad that i couldn't get it back in so i had to go to the hospital. they couldnt believe that my shoulder was just popping out on a regular basis and said i would probably need surgery. Basically, I'm just going to take it a little easier this winter and worry about my should after the season is over. You don't want you whole ski season ruined by your shoulder, you know? If you can deal with it for the winter, I say just do that.
Dec 20 2009 9:27AM
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Inbred_Redneck
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Just get the surgery, you'll be alot happier in the long run. I fucked up my shoulder in football and it was just a recurring injury until i really fucked it up skiing. I ended up exploding my shoulder, dislocated it forward, snapped my humerus in half, and tore part of my bicep and most of my front tendons. I had to get surgery and two permanent screws and was in a sling for 8 weeks with no physical therapy afterwards. (i ended up just doing alot of running and some light weight training with it on my own since it was track season)

Only problem i get now is buildup of some fluid or something in my shoulder which means i have to pop it alot. Otherwise it starts to feeling weird and sometimes hurt if i dont.
Dec 20 2009 11:09AM
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Inbred_Redneck
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One thing i did forget to mention is that it took my about 6 months to get up to full strength with my shoulder again without PT.
Dec 20 2009 11:12AM
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GhostfaceKillah
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dislocations are entirely different from separations...

a shoulder dislocation involves your arm coming out of your shoulder joint (the ball and socket)

a shoulder separation is a tear of your AC joint (what connects your clavicle to your shoulder blade)
Dec 20 2009 12:40PM
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fragglemuffin
Posts: 3312 - Karma: 444
same..before i got the surgery my shoulder would pop out about twice a day from just doing things like getting dressed.  My surgery was in july, and i just got cleared to have fun last week.
Dec 20 2009 1:17PM
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BobYohan
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as for the damage you're doing with continued dislocations and the recovery time you will need from surgery, those are going to be specific to your situation and are questions for your doctor.  i had surgery last summer and it was about 6 months before i was back at it full tilt.  no problems since, just wrapped up a big kayaking season injury free.  get the surgery and be religious about your physio, good luck!
Dec 20 2009 1:29PM
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Tinga
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well it will get to the point where everything you will do will dislocate your shoulder. i got to the point where i couldnt even throw a ball without my shoulder coming out. so i got surgery and it was 10 weeks in a sling the whole time doing physical therapy. after i recovered i have dislocated it a couple times since. but i sublux my shoulder like 1 a month but im a real pussy about it now. most recent sublux was two days ago and i was just stretching. so it will become a big inconvenience
Dec 20 2009 2:26PM
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chelski
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do the surgery. i did the same thing and waited too long. once i had the surgery and dealt with pt, it was the best thing i have ever done. youll be happier in the end.
Dec 20 2009 2:44PM
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.travis.
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is it common to continue to have problems with dislocations even after surgery?  I don't want to be put out of commission for 2 months for nothing. 
Dec 20 2009 2:45PM
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Tinga
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well the solid fact of the matter is that once your shoulder has dislocated it will never ever be the same. and another thing is that skiing is a dangerous sport.

however surgery definitely helped and i would recommend getting surgery if your shoulder is that bad. however know that your shoulder will never ever again be 100%. and you should follow and do your pt 100%.
Dec 20 2009 5:41PM
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geteducated
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the pt is there for a reason. 

strong muscles mean less bone injuries.   jokes on you.
Dec 20 2009 5:44PM
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marsland
Posts: 3150 - Karma: 421
im sure that being able to flex a 5 pound resistance band isnt something that i have to work up to.  the whole time i did pt when it first happened, thats about as much as they did for me.  so if i can do that immediately after it happens now, whats the point of paying to waste my time doing that.
Dec 20 2009 10:29PM
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.jesus.
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then don't post fucker

to op just get it looked at. if you ignore it it could get way worse
Dec 20 2009 10:38PM
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danbrown
Posts: 11932 - Karma: 21,775
your brother says get a job
Dec 20 2009 10:50PM
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geteducated
Posts: 6410 - Karma: 86
why pay?

build up your shoulder muscles at home. 

an ounce of prevention...
Dec 20 2009 11:38PM
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Shredneck
Posts: 2051 - Karma: -32
dont post shit like this, if you couldnt take the time to read dont take the time to post that you didnt read.
Dec 21 2009 3:02AM
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Candy
Posts: 1051 - Karma: 176
So opening day this season (PC) I landed way hard directly on my shoulder, turns out I actually broke by humorous at the part where the tendons attach. Somehow I don't need surgery. But for a while they thought it was my labrum (shoulder dislocating thing) and you HAVE to get surgery or it will get to the point where surgery wont even fix it, and you will be screwed up forever.
Dec 21 2009 3:52AM
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