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Is pvc bad?

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most_mint
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im trying to convince my friend that pvc pipe is what everyone uses for rails and it works fine. He went outside and slid his ski over a piece of pvc pipe and said it dug into it and shit. I know that not right because pvc is the main rail surface but what might be causing it to do this for him? MASSIVE PLUS K!
Nov 12 2009 8:26PM
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[Adam]
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his edges are probably still super sharp.
Nov 12 2009 8:27PM
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TheWiseOne
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no no. its your boots remember? tanner hall said so
Nov 12 2009 8:32PM
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most_mint
Posts: 506 - Karma: 175

well this is helpfull haha im assuming its his edges. Is there a good way to keep this from happening besides dulling your edges... wax?

Nov 12 2009 8:33PM
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2_fadez
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pvc is plastic nonetheless so its possible for your ski to dig in. chances are that the reasons behind it are either super sharp skis, real cheap pvc or when he gets on, his ski is at a weird angle so the edge slices the pvc instead of the base sliding on it. pvc is still the best though so no worries
Nov 12 2009 8:35PM
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cultrara
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try not to land an edge hard on it or put too much pressure on your edges
Nov 12 2009 8:36PM
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Zump.
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i've actually had really good luck with my pvc rails that i've built. they do get cut up a tiny bit on my rail but nothing major. and replacing a pvc rail is much easier to do than any other rail set ups that i can think of. unless you can weld, pvc is your best bet haha. and yeah, his edges were probably sharp
Nov 12 2009 8:40PM
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MN_Nice
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Maybe try dry waxing the pvc before riding on it
Nov 12 2009 8:40PM
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baaangthat
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pvc BAD marshal arts GOOD
Nov 12 2009 8:41PM
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Logey.
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hahah helps, and pvc works really well and its more forgiving than metal haha
Nov 12 2009 8:43PM
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MN_Nice
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1. Martial Arts

2. What?
Nov 12 2009 8:47PM
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baaangthat
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FUCK


obey my dog
Nov 12 2009 8:48PM
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most_mint
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haha ok that last post made me so fuckin confused

Nov 12 2009 8:50PM
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Logey.
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agreeed im not fully understanding
Nov 12 2009 8:53PM
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BWalmer
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the edges are probably still sharp, but you just gotta make sure to not dig the front edge into the PVC, you gotta kinda tilt it up a bit so it doesn't dig in.

So many people use PVC, and once it gets shaved down a bit it's not a problem at all.
Nov 12 2009 8:58PM
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southpw45
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Grab a gummy stone and just dull the edge underfoot, wont influence how your skis initiate turns and you'll slide real nice nice
Nov 12 2009 9:32PM
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TimmyP
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The only downside to PVC, that after heavy abuse, it cracks and falls apart. 
My argument for PVC is that its cheap, easily found at stores, and easy to work with. 
Perhaps, he was using a different kind of PVC.  I use 1.25" schedule 40, and 3" schedule 40, (schedule being the measure of thickness or something of that sort) and never had problems with catching.  Its almost too slick. 

Nov 12 2009 9:46PM
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BackRoad
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pvc makes me :D. it slides faster than pretty much anything
Nov 12 2009 10:33PM
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MEGAZORD
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Schedule is related to the amount of pressure a given length can safely handle.
Nov 12 2009 10:42PM
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TimmyP
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I learned something new today, thanks. 
Nov 12 2009 11:45PM
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erikK
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Just don't land with your weight forward and it'll be good
Nov 13 2009 1:29AM
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shithawks
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instead of being a little bitch why dont u just try it pussy
Nov 13 2009 1:31AM
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potatoes.
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too sharp. dull/detune edges. pvc is magic.
Nov 13 2009 2:11AM
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cultrara
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Nov 13 2009 6:54AM
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I_Am_Mod
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hay kitty!

where's your ear kittyh ???!!!




on topic: sometimes i catch an edge on my pvc, so detune skis and when your pvc gets cut up, just go over it with rough sand paper or a rough file, you'll slide much better on pvc than on metal...
Nov 13 2009 7:25AM
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eheath.
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dull the edges lol
Nov 13 2009 8:41AM
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mackcamp
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Pvc = Good

PCP = Best!

Nov 13 2009 10:09AM
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potatoes.
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im glad you took the time to do this. - K
Nov 13 2009 12:48PM
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KramerC
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pvc rails are slick as shit. the only problem is they break a lot. Go get yourself metal and weld a nice steel rail.
Nov 13 2009 1:34PM
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cultrara
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no problem but next time actually read the thread, unless you are post hungry
Nov 13 2009 2:54PM
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Midwestjibski
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Pvc slides fine and works fine for me.  It also works for everyone who has a backyard setup on ns. 
Nov 13 2009 3:35PM
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GORlLLA
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The answer is simple:
up with hope, down with dope
Nov 13 2009 3:59PM
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theabortionator
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I think pvc sucks, but you can still slide it alright if you edges are dull enough. It slides different than metal, i dont really like the feel, and if you shave in just kill yourself cause thats not fun.



Steel rails. Consistent solid feel. But pvc is alright if you have nothing else. Cheap and easy to build
Nov 13 2009 5:28PM
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PurpleDino
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if you get small pieces of pvc they tend to crack after lots of use
Nov 13 2009 5:45PM
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KennyC
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that was a really douchey thing to say. hes trying to proove to his friend that pvc is a good make-shift rail. im pretty sure hes not having problems hitting it.
Nov 13 2009 8:46PM
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ski-swagga
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pvc is amazing nuff said.
Nov 13 2009 8:57PM
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Malcolm
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tell him to lean on his back foot as much as possible to avoid catching an edge. and tell him to tape it
Nov 13 2009 9:05PM
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potatoes.
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i hate you. worry about your own shit.
Nov 13 2009 10:09PM
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-fungus-
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couldn't agree more
Nov 13 2009 11:29PM
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kpow
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he just doesnt want to admit that ur right. use pvc and shred it and that will show him
Nov 14 2009 9:09AM
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Roussel
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pvc is bad for the environment, id suggest looking into another material if you can.
Nov 14 2009 1:49PM
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rep_your_hood
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such as cardboard!
Nov 14 2009 1:56PM
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PintSizedSteeze
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most pointless post of the century... pm me when you find a material for a rail that's enviromentally friendly ;)

Nov 14 2009 4:20PM
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jamodeo
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you took jib-ninja's icon
Nov 14 2009 4:27PM
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Malcolm
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are you serious?
Nov 14 2009 4:30PM
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Davy.Crockett
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ive heard pvc doesn't work to well in snow. is that true, if it is whats good? fiberglass or something
Nov 14 2009 4:58PM
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Malcolm
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what do you by that? because ive found that the softer types of pvc get mangled more but they have less of a chance of shattering.
Nov 14 2009 5:09PM
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PurpleDino
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he's actually right. pvc is really bad for the environment actually.
Nov 15 2009 8:55AM
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mattytru
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yea i've heard this too, i have no idea why, but i've definitely heard that

on another note about shattering and cutting up pvc, am i the only one who's never had a piece of pvc crack or shatter? i've been using both my rails for a good 2-3 years summer and winter, and haven't had the slightest problem with a crack or break
Nov 15 2009 9:48AM
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kpow
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yeah
Nov 15 2009 10:28AM
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