I do agree that the stuff he is referring to sucks in comparison to a good portion of the genre, wasn't trying to defend it, just expressing a viewpoint of mine which was not necessarily directed at any one person, didn't mean to accuse you of anything, sorry if I came off that way. And yes, my post was probably unnecessary, but I thought I'd try to get something good out of this terrible thread lol.
As for admitting that this isn't good and that our standards have fallen, that is something I am entirely trying to get at, but it may have been lost in my disorganized rant lol, I definitely agree with you there.
I can't let the Pink Floyd comment pass though, I honestly believe they were on a musical level for complexity and quality that was shared by the Beatles and Stones (their early stuff is amazing), and their best work was released in their early days, throughout the '60s and '70s, around the same time period as when the beatles were starting out. I don't mean to demean either the Beatles, the Stones, or Floyd, I'm just too much of a Pink Floyd fanboy to let that pass hahaha.
I am definitely not a huge fan of indie as a genre, I personally think that a lot of the best bands are coming out of europe with electronica and such right now (see m83, royksopp, those are the ones that are coming to mind). I don't even listen to Animal Collective, but I do like a few of their songs.
As for your final sentence, I think that despite our slight disagreements, that is the essence of both our posts', and the most important place for us to agree.
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