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Marker griffon vs. rossignol axial2 150

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Zump.
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Hey NS I need your help...

I bought a pair of 179 Kung Fujas this year, and I'm looking for a good binding to go with it. I'm 5'9'' and wieigh 200 lbs. I put a lot of stress on my bindings, and I'm currently riding Mojo 11's on an Invader. I went to my local ski shop and I asked one of the salesmen about my problem of snapping out of my bindings when there already cranked up to 11. After more discribing of my problem, he said it was because the bottoms of my boots were worn out (I just bought some new Superchargers for this year too, so I'm good to go). So he suggested that I can go to a lower din binding like the Griffon (12 din) and have no probelms at all. Before I had this talk with the salesman I was under the impression that I would have to go with a rossignol axial2 150 (or look px 15/dynastar px 15). What do you guys think I should go with?

thanks. k+ to you guys putting up with my long ass stories

Nov 3 2009 4:54PM
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mr_grom
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Both are great bindings, man. I had the chance to get Marker griffons this past weekend, but the guy said I would like the Salomon STH 12. Maybe you should check those out, but if not, I would say the axials but only because I have never skied on griffons, and I have skied the axial2 120's. I loved those bindings and would have gotten them again if the shop had them, but they didn't. How much are the axials because I know my shop was selling the griffons for $230, and that seems like a great deal to me as I got my STH 12's for $260.

Nov 3 2009 5:01PM
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bootleg_BEN
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I had griffons last year and im 6'2" 230 and i never popped out when i wasnt supposed to. Very solid bindings IMO. Some people will say other wise, but i felt that they held me in super solid.

I did however go to Jesters this year. But thats just for the Metal pieces.
Nov 3 2009 5:08PM
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stickstompin
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At your size i would go with the rossi's, they are a way more durable binding. Although they are a lot heavier but that doesnt matter much.
Nov 3 2009 5:10PM
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El_Barto.
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good lord you got ripped off, 260 for sth12s is outrageous.

to the op. both are good bindings. i have a pair of griffons and several pairs of the rossis 12 din version and like them equally and have never had problem with either. if i were you i would go with the rossis because of your size. are you done growing by chance? if you still might get bigger it would be the rossis without question
Nov 3 2009 5:25PM
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Squid.
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In this thread:

half the people will call Griffons plastic pieces of shit, the other half will swear by them.

Flip a coin man or somehow try both pairs out, because you aren't going to get a definite answer here.
Nov 3 2009 6:07PM
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bootleg_BEN
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I dont know why people dont like griffons and say they are too much plastic.

They can make plastic as strong as steel these days. i realize that the plastic on these arnt as strong as steel, but plastic can be very strong. and its light.

Plus i weigh 230 and i had no problems with them.
Nov 3 2009 6:14PM
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blackoutbill
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Have you checked out tyrolia peak 15's. They are the same as mojo 15, fischer, amplid and quite a few others. Super bomber bindings and you can find them new for around $150 to $175
Nov 3 2009 6:17PM
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stickstompin
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Nobody is calling the griffon a plastic piece of crap, I think they are a great binding for a lighter weight/ less aggresssive skier. I am not saying they wont work for a heavier skier. I think  there is no question the the axial2 150 binding is way more durable than the griffon. It has the same all metal toe as the new fks and reinforced with metal in the heel. I will also suggest checking out the mojo 15 since it is lighter than the 150's. Here is  a pic

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Nov 3 2009 6:41PM
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Squid.
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Oh I though he was comparing them to the other style toe.

Jesters vs. Axial 150's would be a better comparison
Nov 3 2009 6:58PM
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jibjunkie
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sth 12 are trash
griffons are good
px are decent
fks are best
Nov 3 2009 7:03PM
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Squid.
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This man speaks truth. I wouldn't say the STH are complete trash though, the driver toe on the STH 14 driver and STH 16 is apparently really good.
Nov 3 2009 8:49PM
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Zump.
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i'm actually only 15. people shit their pants when i tell them that haha
Nov 3 2009 8:59PM
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Zump.
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but i don't want to spend the $450 on the jesters (after mounting/tax and what not)
i'm trying my best to budget because i don't want to blow all of my money that i'm working for haha
Nov 3 2009 9:02PM
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Zump.
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did you have those set right at 12?
Nov 3 2009 9:05PM
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Zump.
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they seem like a carbon fiber material. like the stuff they use for tennis rackets
Nov 3 2009 9:07PM
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Squid.
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I found mine for $200 on sale, just look around
Nov 3 2009 9:24PM
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bootleg_BEN
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No i actually had them set at 8.5 which is what my din should be for a type 3 skier at my height and weight.
Nov 3 2009 9:54PM
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Squid.
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I have mine at 8, but I feel like the metal on Jesters will make them last longer and I got them for a good deal. I could have easily gone with Griffons I guess
Nov 3 2009 9:56PM
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bootleg_BEN
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Same thing i did, i wanted the metal so i got jesters, but my din will probably be the same.


OP if you have a good binding that doesnt have prerelease issues, then you dont have to crank down your din.
Nov 3 2009 9:59PM
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targheepark
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riding jesters, not griffons but they are a solid binding.  However, seems like the rossi set up is gonna last longer, ive demoed some skis with griffons on em and just havent been impressed.

Nov 4 2009 7:25PM
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