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Calling all Military men and women (US onry, sorry Canada)

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Gavajabra
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Alright guys, I need some input. I'm extremely interested in joining the Military (leaning towards Air Force) but I have one rather large obstacle in my way. Unfortunately, I have asthma which is a dis-qualification to join any branch and in order to get in needs to be medically waivered. I've been seeing an Asthma physician since I was 8 (still do to this day at 19). So basically I have a few questions that still haven't been 100% answered.

1. Do you know/seen people with Asthma in the Military who got it waivered (seeing Doc past age 13 + Inhaler)

2. If you do get waivered, do they give you an inhaler just in case?

3. Say I do lie about my Asthma, and in Basic I tell the doc's that I need an inhaler -- Is this grounds for getting kicked out?

4. Is there anything to improve my stock? I scored a 76 on the Practice ASVAB and am sure with a little studying I can get mid 80's to 90 on the test.


Thanks in advance.
Oct 28 2009 12:11AM
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Mr.Panda
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From what I know, don't lie to get on your intake forms. It makes you something of a combat liability and you may get a form of a discharge if they find out. Best bet, is get a doctor waiver saying it's under control. I see you are going Air Force which means you can probably be able to join. If you were going Marines, Army, or even possibly Navy it may be more of a problem cause of the all the combat on the frontlines with a gun sorta shit they do.
Oct 28 2009 12:16AM
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Gavajabra
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I've heard that Navy and Airforce actually hand out less waivers for Asthma than Marines/Army. I'm not sweating AF Basic training at all, I probably do more physical activity in a week then they do in Basic. The problem for me is my Asthma is allergy-induced, meaning that my breathing problems occur sporadically rather than over-exerting myself physically. I just hope they understand that with an inhaler I'm in better shape than 90% of the AF recruits.
Oct 28 2009 12:18AM
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Mr.Panda
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Fuck, that seems weird.

Tell you what, I'll try to get ahold of my buddy in the Air Force and talk to my ex Navy dad and see if they know anything about it.
Oct 28 2009 12:20AM
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Gavajabra
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Alright thanks bro. My brother-in-law is actually in the AF (currently stationed in Japan with my sister, lucky bastard) and he wasn't sure. I've asked everyone I've seen involved in the Military and I'd like some clear cut answers. To be honest I'm not sure I'd feel comfortable enough to go into AF Basic without an inhaler.
Oct 28 2009 12:23AM
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yellav
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unless youre trying to pay for college why would you ever join the military
Oct 28 2009 12:25AM
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Mr.Panda
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Well, I just got off the phone with my dad, he said your best bet is to talk to your recruiting officer. They will most likely put something on your file and since Basic isn't the way it is in Full Metal Jacket anymore DIs will push you but they can't fuck with you like they do in Full Metal Jacket. At least, that is what I heard.

I looked into joining the Marines as a possibility to pay for grad school but I can't unless I get some sort of surgery to repair my eyesight and lose a shit ton of weight first. Fucking Uncle Sam.
Oct 28 2009 12:28AM
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Gavajabra
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To serve my country, to see places in the world most people will never see, to be my own man and stand up on my own 2 feet for once in my life, full benefits (which right now I have none), pay for college, putting down Military on any application will be a huge bonus over others, earn respect from my peers, OH and women love a man in uniform.



Just to name a few.
Oct 28 2009 12:30AM
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Mr.Panda
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Cause you can be part of something bigger than yourself, be the person people will count on. And to get away from douchebags like you.
Oct 28 2009 12:32AM
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doublexl
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dont join the military dude. fuck this country.
Oct 28 2009 12:33AM
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Gavajabra
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Don't come in my thread and tell me not to join the Military. I didn't make this thread in hopes that it'd turn into a flame-fest.
Oct 28 2009 12:34AM
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yellav
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thank you
Oct 28 2009 12:34AM
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Mr.Panda
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You could just ignore them too. That's the opinion that me and all the buddies I know who did join feel. Ignore the dumb fucks that like to badmouth the military but will be the first in line crying to have the Marines and SEALs come save their pathetic hippy ass.
Oct 28 2009 12:36AM
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Mr.Panda
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I agree with you for the first time Allen.
Oct 28 2009 12:37AM
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OhMyBosh
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Sorry but this is a horrible reason to join the military.

The only reason you should ever join the military is if you have no other option, or if there was a war that actually mattered and was being fought for reasons that you actually stand for.
Oct 28 2009 12:43AM
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Gavajabra
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Alright, get the fuck out of my thread with this bullshit.
Oct 28 2009 12:44AM
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3ski6guy0
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for an experience
Oct 28 2009 12:44AM
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Mr.Panda
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Oct 28 2009 12:45AM
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Dr.NS
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going to disneyland is an experience.

having a limb blown off your body is not.


regardless, this thread isnt about whether or not the military is just or not, so everyone stop stating your opinions, especially because in the end, it doesnt matter shit all what you think, people will always enlist, often for stupid reasons, and people will always protest, often for stupid reasons too

besides, im from canada, fuckin A
Oct 28 2009 12:49AM
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Half-Blood
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To blow shit up obviously...
Oct 28 2009 12:51AM
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prontocuts.com
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You can get a waiver for ANYTHING in the military, you just have to keep trying and trying. I know a guy who is a bomber pilot, and first got DQd for asthma, but then went to his doc and got a waiver, waited like three months and then got accepted.

But just some advice to you:
Seriously consider going to college first, and then join. My dad was 21 years enlisted USAF (retired master sgt) and he cant emphasize how HUGE of a deal it is to goto school first. Pay is WAY higher, WAY better jobs, WAY easier bootcamp (may help for you due to health) WAY better housing, the list goes on, and on, and on, and on. My dad was in the first ever f 16 fighter squad, and hes told me countless times that the best moment of his life was flying in an f 16. He says he regretted not going to college after that and always has.

Me? Im currently going to school for electrical engineering, and the air force will pay for your schooling no questions asked (well, basically) if you are majoring in EE. So im meeting up with a USAF ROTC guy next week to get some paper work done and hopefully get my scholarship. They also pay you each month just for going to school.




Oct 28 2009 12:52AM
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Mr.Panda
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This quote will fuck with this thread some, but whatever:

Lance Cpl. Harold James Trombley: Sergeant, I didn't get to shoot!

Cpl. Josh Ray Person: That fucking sucks, Trombley. Did your recruiting officer tell you you'd get to shoot people?

Lance Cpl. Harold James Trombley: Fucking A he did!

Cpl. Josh Ray Person: See, Trombley asked about shooting people. I asked about pussy. The guy told me I'd get to go to Thailand and get all kinds of strange. What'd you ask about, Brad? Brad probably saw that T.V. commercial, the one with the knight that fucks up the dragon that turns into the Marine.

Cpl. Walt Hasser: Woo woo! Dress blues with a sword!

Cpl. Josh Ray Person: Fucking dress blues commercial man. That got so many fucking dudes. Now look at us: Trombley hasn't killed anybody, I'm half a world away from good Thai pussy, and Colbert is out here rolling around fuckbutt Iraq hunting for dragons in a MOPP suit that smells like four days of piss and ball sweat.
Oct 28 2009 12:53AM
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Gavajabra
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Well the problem is I can't pay for school. My parents are broke and so am I, right now I'm working off 1 semester of school every year. I understand that being an Officer is better, but really I'd rather get started now than when I'm 27. Boot camp won't be hard for me, I'm in good physical condition. I heard once you get DQ'd, you are permanently DQ'd from any branch in the Military ever which is why I'm stressin about this.
Oct 28 2009 12:58AM
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Nicholas.
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dude im sorry, i dont have any advice. your reasons for joining are all great.

but i really just wanted to say that a ton of kids in this thread are ignorant little spoiled fucks that have no grasp on what it means to be a man or a citizen. god, if some of those replies were said to me in person....jesus christ...

"fuck this country" dude fuck you. seriously, should i have to say more than that? this country has never provided you with anything im sure.
Oct 28 2009 12:58AM
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Mr.Panda
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"You may bitch about the military, you may bitch about this country, you may bitch about me being in uniform. But at the end of the day, you are able to put your head down on your pillow feeling safe and have the right to bitch about stuff cause people before me wore the uniform and fought for it. This gives met he right to punch you in the mouth for badmouthing me or the flag."

This is how I feel about people that say "fuck the troops/this country".
Oct 28 2009 1:02AM
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Gavajabra
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Agreed.
Oct 28 2009 1:03AM
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yellav
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yall some brainwashed little monkeys eh?
Oct 28 2009 1:05AM
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Gavajabra
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Props for not giving in to the hype. I see from your Avi that you aren't brainwashed by the media. Being morbidly obese is awesome!
Oct 28 2009 1:09AM
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Mr.Panda
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Hey mang, I'm a fatty panda. Take it easy on the talking down to fat people thing. /my slight amount of sarcasm.
Oct 28 2009 1:11AM
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thegoat
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I did not read past the initial 3 posts since it turned into a bunch of ungrateful, undisciplined, longhair hippies who know absolutely nothing about the military yapping away.

About me:
Currently in Army ROTC, 20 years old, no prior service, planing on going active duty.
I was diagnosed with a mild form of athletically induced asthma back when I was a freshman in High School, I have had no problems since. I don't carry an inhaler, I can run just fine.


First off, you have a history of asthma, airforce won't touch you. You will need a waiver for Army, but that should not be a huge hurdle. Don't know about navy or marines, but I think it could get a waiver for either without to much hassle. You should go Army though anyway.

Where are you from? How old are you? Where are you in School?
Are you planning on enlisting, or want to earn a commission?

Believe me, there are a ton of benefits of going in the Army, other then the obvious. Almost 100% of them will help you succeed in the civilian world as well.

Feel free to ask me any questions you got.

CDT Russell


Oct 28 2009 1:16AM
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Gavajabra
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What do you mean the Air Force won't touch me? I really don't want to join the Army or Marines because of my Asthma, even it being allergy-induced will make it hell.
Oct 28 2009 1:20AM
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yellav
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it's a picture of my friend evan. LOL at someone joining the military accusing someone else of being brainwashed though.
Oct 28 2009 1:22AM
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Gavajabra
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Oh is that my boy Evanheath or whatever his name was? And if you're seriously going to keep trying to turn this in to a flame-fest then just get the fuck out.
Oct 28 2009 1:23AM
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Nicholas.
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im not brainwashed at all. i live in vermont which is probably the most left-winged anti-military state there is, i barely know anyone in the military, and thirdly fuck you....im not brainwashed for supporting the military that protects our ass when it really comes down to it. youd be singing a different tune if someone invaded the U.S. big boy, or would your fat ass try to hi-tail it to canada? its arrogant fucks like you that take this country for granted and make us look horrible at the same time.

so get the fuck out of this kids simple thread asking for INFORMATION with your little anti-military one liners, that you probably have no basis for even thinking in the first place whatsoever.

you should join the military, it might teach you a few things about being a man, being respectful, and hey you could shed some of those pounds while you are at it. NAHHHH just keep talking shit about the military until you get knocked the fuck out, make it easier for everyone.

only the most ignorant of the ignorant openly hate on their own countries military.
Oct 28 2009 1:23AM
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thegoat
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Things you can NOT waiver:

Domestic Violence
DUI (maybe)
recent history (6months) of frequent use of drugs
previous discharge other then honorable
real disabilities.
There are some others too.
Oct 28 2009 1:25AM
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Mr.Panda
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If you want to be a pilot is probably the thing. A mechanic or something they might, of course, I don't know first hand though.
Oct 28 2009 1:25AM
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geteducated
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goon on ya for joining.  slay that dragon.
Oct 28 2009 1:26AM
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Mr.Panda
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I know three guys the USMC took who had DUIs, of course, that was probably over 20 years ago though.
Oct 28 2009 1:26AM
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thegoat
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Air force will not consider people who have any history of asthma.
Oct 28 2009 1:27AM
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Gavajabra
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Nah I don't want to be a pilot. Probably some tech shit but honestly I'm not sure what I want to do.
Oct 28 2009 1:28AM
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Nicholas.
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oh, sorry i didnt realize that was a picture of heath.

everything else i said still applies, you are still a whiny fucking bitch.
Oct 28 2009 1:28AM
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Gavajabra
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Really? That makes no fucking sense...

What about the navy?
Oct 28 2009 1:28AM
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Dr.NS
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chill

we get that your badass and better than everyone.
Oct 28 2009 1:30AM
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thegoat
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Its true, I tried. lasted about 2 hours.

no idea on navy.

Oct 28 2009 1:34AM
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Nicholas.
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im not badass at all or better than everyone. im a scrawny ass kid from vermont who has no intention of joining the military, i just hate when people cut down on soldiers/prospective ones for what the do for the country. i see that you are trying to remain neutral but by your earlier comment in this thread that you are just as anti-military as that valley kid.

i also hate kids that respond with worthless one liners like you just did, if you have something to ACTUALLY negate what i said then feel free to post, but if you are going to tell me to chill and try to make me seem unreasonably condescending then get the fuck out of the thread.
Oct 28 2009 1:35AM
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Gavajabra
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I'll have to talk to my recruiter bout it
Oct 28 2009 1:43AM
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Dr.NS
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you're right, i am neutral

not once here did i state anything going against that, prove that i did.

im not responding with "worthless little one liners". and im not being unreasonably condescending. maybe you're being unreasonably antagonistic and pissed off because you're not having your way.

face it, not everyones going to agree with you, and you're not going to change them. and believe me, its the same on the other side for people apposed to you too.

we understand by now that you're pro military, and thats great you stated your opinion

but next time you feel like stating what my opinion is for me, please don't.
 i know what it is.
 and you don't.

Oct 28 2009 1:45AM
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Funnel
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Good choice. Air Force would be the only form of military I would ever enter. It is easily the most badass of all the different kinds of military. Good luck getting in man.
Oct 28 2009 1:49AM
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Mr.Panda
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"going to disneyland is an experience.

having a limb blown off your body is not.


regardless, this thread isnt about whether or not the military is just or not, so everyone stop stating your opinions, especially because in the end, it doesnt matter shit all what you think, people will always enlist, often for stupid reasons"




Those first two lines aren't very neutral. The first line is also a one liner. And you are being condescending with the "having a limb blown off your body is not"...
Oct 28 2009 1:50AM
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Nicholas.
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"getting your leg blown off isnt an experience" that just shows ignorance to what the military is about, especially the airforce/navy. sorry if that made me jump to conclusions about your opinion, im only human...

i wasnt saying you were being unnecessarily condescending, i was saying that i wasnt.

i know that not everyone will agree with me, thanks for that great insight though dude! i just really wish kids could shut the fuck up instead of being antagonistic, there is no reason to openly hate on someone for being a soldier(how am i being antagonistic BTW? maybe unreasonably irritated if anything, but not antagonistic)

again really the only thing im willing to give you here is that, yes, i did formulate an assumption about your opinion on the matter, given you provided a "little one liner" degrading the military into nothing but people who go into direct combat and lose limbs. REALLY REALLY sorry for that!
Oct 28 2009 1:56AM
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