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Ryan*
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So I made a thread about this in the summer, when I first saw these bindings, but now that it's almost winter somebody has most likely ridden them, can anyone tell me anything about the Marker Griffon Schizos and Jester Schizos?  I want to get a new setup that I can use in the park and on the few occasions when I ski some deep stuff.  Fuck east coast ice.  I want a center mounted ski (assholes at my shop didn't mount my bindings at center even though I asked for it), but I want to be able to move the mount position back, which is why these bindings would be perfect for me...so long as everything checks out. 

Main concerns:

-Too heavy
-Too clumsy
-Affects flex of ski

They're also fucking expensive which might mean I can't get them anyway, but if the reviews are fantastic, I'll just save up for a little longer. 
Oct 25 2009 8:47PM
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nstubler
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I haven't ridden them but I picked them up today at our ski shop
They were definitively heavier then the other bindings such as the marker griffons that I was examining

I don't know If this helps but yeah
Oct 25 2009 9:12PM
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KennyC
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nahhh they werent that heavy maybe a tad bit heavier than the jesters. i wouldnt get them cause the flex on my skis flexes right in front to the middle of the binding so the schizo would get in the way of that. and seriously after a while you wouldnt care wear your bindings are mounted you would just ski.
Oct 25 2009 9:35PM
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Ryan*
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Truth.  I'm just wondering because I want to examine all my options before I buy anything.
Oct 25 2009 9:44PM
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Aaaron.
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i thought they were super heavy, mounted on Kung Fujas..  i was not stoked.

Oct 26 2009 4:28PM
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aandbackflip
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I've demoed them on some extremes so i'd thought i'd give a little input, they're pretty heavy yeah but seem really solid because of this,  the screw retention is supposedly massively improved of this as well. Flex imo was affected but not massively just had to push it a bit more in the tail. My main thing though was you can't adjust them on snow as soon as it gets cold the snow freezes to the metal screw that you use to adjust it, it took me fifteen minutes of leaving them inside to be able to adjust them. Imo a big design flaw?
Oct 26 2009 5:09PM
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thegoat
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I had no problems adjusting them on snow.

Yes, they way more then a regular jester, but compare them to another 16 din binding and they really are not that heavy.

As for flex, its actually not as much as you would think. the connecting cables/device is not rigid, it can flex a bit, No the ski will not flex like it did on the wall, but your boot will actually do more to kill the flex of the ski then the schizo will (depending on forward pressure).


As far as the flaws go, I think being able to adjust your mount point more then makes up for the few disadvantages of the binding. Putting it on ski like the Fujas or Jeronimo will allow you to have one ski for park riding and big mountain skiing. So really your saving the cost of a pair of skis and bindings. I would say thats a win.


Oct 26 2009 5:19PM
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aandbackflip
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were you using the tiny little plastic thing marker give you with the binding? i found that terrible, im sure using a proper screwdriver would be better? But yeah.. the whole fact you can shift your stance back by six cm is the point, it's an amazing invention, just still costs a lot of money.
Oct 26 2009 5:28PM
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KennyC
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i'm pretty sure this movable binding design has been tried and acomplished before. so its not really innovative.
Oct 26 2009 5:58PM
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Ghini
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This is very true... I've heard a lot of people talking about the flex you'll loose with this binding, but it doesnt work that way as said above here..
Oct 26 2009 9:06PM
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thegoat
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I just used a snowboard pocket tool.
Oct 26 2009 9:37PM
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