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Backcountry Jibbers...

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SmokeyTheBear
Posts: 492 - Karma: 24
Where do you mount your skis for backcountry jibbing? Do you mount them center or just a little back for more control?
Oct 4 2009 1:36PM
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Willard
Posts: 5117 - Karma: 429
i mount a 2 cm back from center
Oct 4 2009 1:38PM
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nickyp
Posts: 5673 - Karma: 215
+2
Oct 4 2009 1:43PM
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sdfjklioeur
Posts: 2082 - Karma: 114
centermount if your riding swith at all.
Oct 4 2009 1:55PM
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SoupCurry
Posts: 1847 - Karma: 731
dead center on reverse cambers....1-2 cm back on cambered
Oct 4 2009 2:16PM
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SmokeyTheBear
Posts: 492 - Karma: 24
I live in minnesota so I'm a park rat by necessity. Thanks for the input id love to get into backcountry.
Oct 4 2009 2:19PM
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Leafman
Posts: 2178 - Karma: 251
is there any backcountry at all there?
Oct 4 2009 2:22PM
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factory81
Posts: 3967 - Karma: 63
Don't forget your avy beacon for that wicked backcountry MN stoke


Before ya disss meh for living in Michigan. Keep in mind we have Mt. Bohemia with like 800-900 vertical


Oct 4 2009 2:27PM
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YooperSteeze
Posts: 1248 - Karma: 45
Jea boi, same here. Going there alot this year.
Oct 4 2009 4:04PM
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no_steeze
Posts: 23992 - Karma: 4,270
i had center mounted hellbents, aside from the fact that hellbents fucking suck i guess they'd be good for hopping around with no poles trying to hand drag off stumps
Oct 4 2009 4:19PM
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KennyC
Posts: 1922 - Karma: 46
jibbin natty terain is so fun. i love jibbing in the BC its fun probably funner than my park.
Oct 4 2009 4:28PM
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The_Oakley_Kid
Posts: 3128 - Karma: 179
1.5 cm forward
Oct 4 2009 6:39PM
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SmokeyTheBear
Posts: 492 - Karma: 24
If you look real hard for it. Not really though. It's more I'd love to go out west and ski baccountry.


And sure mount Bohemia is better than what we have here, but not for vertical. Lutsen and Spirit have close to that, lutsen might have more but i could be wrong. We just don't get any snow.
Oct 4 2009 6:48PM
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SmokeyTheBear
Posts: 492 - Karma: 24
And hell yeah. I always keep the shovel handy in case a slab busts loose on my buddy.
Oct 4 2009 6:50PM
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Meases_Pieces
Posts: 1292 - Karma: 246
is it just me or is no_steeze pmsing all over every thread he touches
Oct 4 2009 6:57PM
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blindside
Posts: 5619 - Karma: 1,199
with this sentence you've officially crossed over into the twilight zone. You're on some other, other shit.
Oct 4 2009 7:26PM
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Funnel
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OMG!!!!!!

I thought my mountain was really small and it has 1700 vertical.
Oct 4 2009 7:28PM
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YooperSteeze
Posts: 1248 - Karma: 45
My home mountain is 600ft, and the mountain by the college I want to go to is 470ft
Oct 4 2009 7:32PM
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LC.
Posts: 5952 - Karma: 2,423
I asked Benchetler last week, he said 1 inch back.
Oct 4 2009 7:41PM
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Holte
Posts: 10730 - Karma: 7,744
My bents are 1cm back, and Seths are 4cm back.
Oct 4 2009 8:48PM
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Native
Posts: 191 - Karma: 18
what college?
Oct 4 2009 8:51PM
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Eric_D
Posts: 1562 - Karma: 79
on rockered skis id go true center. thats what i had on my bents and they were soo much fun. but if there not rockered then i would go 1-2 back. anymore i think would make switch in pow a little difficult
Oct 4 2009 8:53PM
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no_steeze
Posts: 23992 - Karma: 4,270
so just because some ns kids like hellbents means i have to like them as well?

i will throw this out there, i, no_steeze, did not enjoy skiing on hellbents. i found them lifeless, too soft, and only good in bottomless pow which i seem to rarely get
Oct 4 2009 9:14PM
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blindside
Posts: 5619 - Karma: 1,199
they happen to be great in the park. I won't argue this with you, you're entitled to your point of view, but I will not have kids on here being turned off to the idea of hellbents just because you didn't like them.
Oct 4 2009 10:11PM
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joshua
Posts: 5046 - Karma: 1,280
At least you have real mountains. We just have hills in ontario
Oct 4 2009 10:14PM
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Eric_D
Posts: 1562 - Karma: 79
interesting. your the first ive heard of that truly didnt enjoy them. and i disagree. i used bents in park a lot and i liked em. i would tho prefer something a bit smaller but honesly they really fun on rails n such. the only issue i had would be the weight. a bitt to heavy but still such a great innovative ski.
Oct 4 2009 10:25PM
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ThaLorax
Posts: 21061 - Karma: 8,366
I have my Salomon Guns mounted at 2cm back for BC/Pow days.
Oct 4 2009 11:11PM
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no_steeze
Posts: 23992 - Karma: 4,270
yep i found them heavy and just dead on my feet, the only time they moved was when the tips were flapping around in crud. i really just think it's the type of skiing i like to do. i'm not a jibber, i don't like hopping around in pow, i like going as fast as i can through crud and pow making as few turns as possible...just the way i prefer to ski and i think anyone will tell you that bents are not made for that, so therefore i did not like them

i'm perfectly entitled to not like a ski
Oct 4 2009 11:16PM
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buddychaps
Posts: 1817 - Karma: 583
where should i mount my lizzies? i ski powder and park, still wanna ski switch. 2cm back? 1 cm? or should i center mount them?
Oct 5 2009 12:32AM
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ThaLorax
Posts: 21061 - Karma: 8,366
I'd go 2cm back. You can still ski switch fine but when you want to ski forwards on steep terrain it's a lot better than centered.
Oct 5 2009 12:47AM
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GreenHorn
Posts: 4896 - Karma: 1,209
Nobody has said that this should be in gear talk? thats unlike NS
Oct 5 2009 12:50AM
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SHastatahoe
Posts: 3414 - Karma: 19
A preference towards a ski is not a community based decision.  You have your right not to like a ski.

But I think the bentlys charge in the pow, and the chop.  There is a lot of chatter but I don't worry about it a whole lot.  They don't chatter in pow, and actually have 'pop' in pow, from my experience.  The tips and tails work as shock absorbers due to their flex in the pow/chop and allow the rest of the ski to perform. 

As for the main point of this threat, it really depends on the ski.  My bentlys(189cm) are mounted like -2 from true center with jesters.  You really have to judge how much switch riding you are going to do.  It is very proportional.  If you do more, mount them more forward.  You will lose a bit of true pow skiing ability, but will gain a ton of switch pow skiing ability.  I also like having tails when I ski. 

I grew up racing, so I like to charge with my shins on the tounge. 

It really depends on the ski and what you indend to do with it.
Oct 5 2009 1:00AM
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Literature
Posts: 13673 - Karma: 3,086
-1cm from true center. Best place to be.
Oct 5 2009 2:54AM
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LC.
Posts: 5952 - Karma: 2,423
Ditto.
Oct 5 2009 5:51AM
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KansasCityKilla
Posts: 90 - Karma: 11
OMG OMG. did you give him a hand job too?
Oct 5 2009 1:40PM
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LC.
Posts: 5952 - Karma: 2,423
Once again the kids of NS show how fucking ungrateful they really are. Goodbye.
Oct 5 2009 1:53PM
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no_steeze
Posts: 23992 - Karma: 4,270
see i found the soft tips and tails made the stiff middle of the ski drop down into the troughs between patches of snow in crud therefore causing an enormous explosion out of each trough you pass, making a super choppy and unstable ride. i only found them manageable for charging in very soft crud and lots of pow, in anything else i'd much rather have something stiff as a 2 x 4 just for cutting through everything as fast as possible

i race as well and i love nothing more than flexing the shit out of my boots and making as few turns as possible but i found bents really couldn't handle it, i didn't like how jibby they felt, all they wanna do is hop up and down and thats not the kind of skiing i like to do

i would've preferred to ride 189's tho, i was riding 179's
Oct 5 2009 1:56PM
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Twig
Posts: 6336 - Karma: 57,070
x3. It wasn't the soft flex for me, but i found them heavy and dead. Too soft to charge hard and just not that fun elsewhere.
Oct 5 2009 2:10PM
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ThaLorax
Posts: 21061 - Karma: 8,366
don't let a few select idiots keep you from posting helpful info.
Oct 5 2009 2:11PM
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Eric_D
Posts: 1562 - Karma: 79
correct me if im wrong but the 189s are a different ski the the 79s. pretty sure there a hell of a lot stiffer and have a lot more rocker. so maybe the 189s are more your ski because of the stiffness
Oct 5 2009 2:27PM
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YooperSteeze
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Michigan Tech
Oct 5 2009 6:29PM
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SoCore
Posts: 141 - Karma: 222
unless you're sledding into the bc booters you're gonna want them back from center a little bit.  will help with any nasty stuff you have to ski on the way out and could make it more fun if there's any powder.
Oct 5 2009 6:34PM
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