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Versatile backcountry touring ski

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fouldsys
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so i think i want another AT setup. im looking for a light ski, ~105 underfoot, 25-30m sidecut, less than 190 in length, close to zero camber and maybe some tip rocker, and medium stiff. my rubys are just to big and stiff for anything more than some sidecountry. can anyone think of something that fits the bill? im probably going to put dukes on them so the lighter the better.
Sep 25 2009 5:32PM
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fouldsys
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oops forgot about the versatile part. needs to handle everything; steeps, trees, deep stuff, etc.
Sep 25 2009 5:34PM
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jibjunkie
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Sep 25 2009 5:50PM
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@skiinmitch
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Sounds like the nordica ZEROs would be a perfect ski for you. Zero camber . 104 underfoot. Not to stiff but not to floppy. Chheck it out http://www.nordica.com/site/ski.php?site=5&lang=1&id=39
Sep 25 2009 6:21PM
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fouldsys
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those are symetrical...
Sep 25 2009 6:49PM
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@skiinmitch
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and your point is....

u dont have to mkount them center if they are symmetricle rory bushfields mounts his BC ones at like -4 i think

Sep 25 2009 7:09PM
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fouldsys
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symmetrical isnt really analogous to versatile
Sep 25 2009 7:18PM
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Avifarer
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4frnt ehp
Sep 25 2009 7:24PM
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Ski.Ballet
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ON3P Billy Goat
Sep 25 2009 7:26PM
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gonx
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i´m searching the same type of ski,and probably mounting the dukes or the barons too.

i´ve seen the new backside series of k2.the hardside looks great, 98mm underfoot, metal laminanet, 5/15 Tip Rocker, 14/13 Progressive Sidecut...

if you want somthing bigger you have the sidestash, its 115mm underfoot and i thinks is too big for "easy" touring...

and the other option is the coomback, i rather the cap construction, more easy to handle, and more manouvrable than the metal laminate of the  hardside, in the other hand the coomback have less tip rocker than the hardise..

and both have tip and tail holes for the touring skins!!
Sep 25 2009 7:33PM
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fouldsys
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word. im looking for a twin probably so the k2s arent gonna work. billy goats are to fat.
Sep 25 2009 7:57PM
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fouldsys
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i think i might just get some 333 skis
Sep 25 2009 8:03PM
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fouldsys
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i dont have dynafit compatible boots (yet), and i feel that if i used naxos or fr+ i would break them as im 220 pounds, and have broken every 12 din binding ive ever had. and if i got at boots, id feel the same way about dynafits, and would hesitate buying them as they would probably break. i want to try those trab bindings when they come out. but for now, dukes have proved themselves to me. call me stubborn, but thats how i see all 12 din bindings.
Sep 25 2009 8:55PM
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fouldsys
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but i dont huck. the biggest thing ill hit is like 10-15'. i just have some magical ability to break 12 din bindings.
Sep 25 2009 9:10PM
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fouldsys
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also coombacks do have rocker now. they are quite appealing to me now.
Sep 25 2009 9:13PM
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fouldsys
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i see, the g3 zenoxides seem to be the answer. theyre a lighter el hombre, but from what ive heared about the el hombre theyre pretty soft, which probably means the zenocides are even softer. id ask if anyone has heard anything about these but i just realized probably half the people on here havnt heared of g3.
Sep 25 2009 9:31PM
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Caveman.
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Here is a thread I made last March when I was in the same type of situation. There is some good advice in it.

https://newschoolers.com/web/forums/readthread/thread_id/444831/
Sep 26 2009 12:46AM
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Gomer_GSX
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I didn't enjoy the Coombacks very much when I rode them, and this is coming from someone who uses Bacons as a backcountry touring ski.  I find the Bacon to have the perfect versatile width under foot, mixed with contact and float yet still actually being playful.  Another that my dad owns and I steal from him constantly is the Rossi S7, a little more pow oriented but damn is this ski great in BC conditions.  Also, consider the Icelantic Nomad SFT which is very similar to the Bacon but my brother who is 200+ lbs. preferred it more than my Bacons.
Sep 26 2009 1:05AM
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ski-swagga
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i was gunna suggest this.
Sep 26 2009 1:16AM
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no_steeze
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if you're putting dukes on them it doesn't matter really, i would suggest a light ski with dynafits if you really wanna go on long tours, dukes just wont cut it when you start to go hard
Sep 26 2009 1:25AM
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fouldsys
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ya im probably gonna get new boots for christmas so i think i might invest in some dynafits. i not exactly sure yet but well see.
Sep 26 2009 4:38AM
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RudyGarmisch
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ON3P Jeronimos or Billy Goats. Seriously, check them out, and PM me if you have any questions.
Sep 26 2009 5:20AM
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no_steeze
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i'd vouch for the scarpa skookum or garmont axon, both some of the stiffest dyna compatible boots in their class, i rode the skookum a lot last year because i'm a scarpa guy and they're so nice going up and hold their own quite well on the way down. it was the only boot i brought to chile and it was great on 4hr tours with dynafits and it did just fine charging around the resort on jj's with dukes. really happy with them

basically dynafit is the way to go if you want to get into long tours, they won't withstand hucks from a 220 lb guy but they'll get you down just fine, especially with the toes locked

if you want to hit big stuff on your touring rig, just stick with the rubies and dukes, a fr+ or naxo is kinda that middle section where they're heavy for long tours and weak for big hucks
Sep 26 2009 1:33PM
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fouldsys
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im looking into the g3 onyx now. seem more sturdy then dynafits.
Sep 26 2009 6:47PM
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Sklar
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check out Black Diamonds line, i've heard good stuff and they have a couple pair of new skis i think it is the Justice that was like what you are looking for
Sep 26 2009 6:50PM
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no_steeze
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apparently the new zealot with the rockered tip is fucking ridiculous, i've heard it kills it for tele, not sure how it rides fixed heel but people love it
Sep 26 2009 7:05PM
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Aenigma
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I've been using a pair from two years ago as my AT ski, and I love them. They're super light for how big they are, and they're stiff enough that I can get by on a 182 without any issues. However, they are definitely on the stiff side of things, and anybody who is looking at Coombas (or whatever they are called now) should probably shy away--the Zealot is a lot more ski to handle than those. I bet the rocker would make them a little less unwieldy, but if the flex hasn't changed it's still not the most easy-going ski if you want something on the forgiving side.
Sep 26 2009 8:18PM
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charmander
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volkl bridge, i have barons on mine,

best.
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Sep 26 2009 8:47PM
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