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Armada JJ or K2 Hellbent

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mark@snoq.ski
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hey i am a little guy 120 pounds and i am 5 ' 4" and growing fast... i was wondering which would be a better ski for me. i am an agressive skier and was wondering what you all though would be the best for me??

THANKS

Sep 23 2009 7:17PM
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K2 hellbent. They rape straight up powder and handle well out of it too.
Sep 23 2009 8:34PM
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mark@snoq.ski
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wouldn't hellbents be a bit to wide for me or does it even matter???
Sep 23 2009 8:52PM
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Well from my experience theyre pretty quick edge to edge. Another good one for you would be the line sir francis bacon
Sep 23 2009 9:21PM
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japanada
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Where are you skiing, what are you skiing, any park? Do you care how they ski on groomers? Give us some more info about what you are lookign to get out of your skis.
Sep 23 2009 10:31PM
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Valind
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I ski the JJ. I love them. They are my only ski. I used them in Summit County, CO. They were so sick in the pow and I could really carve hard on the groomers. I am 5ft8in 150.
Sep 23 2009 10:45PM
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mark@snoq.ski
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i would like a playful pow ski that is rockered, and still will work just skiing back from the backcounrty...... i have heard mixed things about the Hellbents for a little guy like me but they seem like a sweet ski.... but the JJ seem awesome also but i can't find any cheaper ones?????
Sep 23 2009 11:19PM
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Valind
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I went to me local dealer and talked him down to $500 for last seasons ski (I also bought them last season new, in October). Just go to each store and try to nicely talk them down a bit. Someone will bite and do it for you. I used the JJ on the groomers just messing around all season.
Sep 23 2009 11:33PM
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ReetsAdeets
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Im same height, but like 110lbs. I have 169 Bents, and love them. they are super fun to ski, rip pow, and are overall an awesome ski. My friend is the same size as you and has JJs. He loves them as well. I would say if your skiing switch a fair amount, ski deep pow, and landing in pow switch, get hellbents. if you want something a little more versatile, but something that still rips pow, get JJs. If you want to just ski hard, get the JJs. If you want to hit booters a lot and also ski bigger lines, get hellbents. both are awesome skis tho. cant go wrong with either one.
Sep 23 2009 11:54PM
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mark@snoq.ski
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the problem is that my local stores and i think all stores don't have any of last years modles :(
Sep 23 2009 11:54PM
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Valind
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when I bought mine they were current year. Just go haggle like your at a car dealership. You will be amazed what places will actually haggle. LOL my father does it all the time at BestBuy.
Sep 23 2009 11:57PM
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mynilla
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Try 333skis its pretty damn legit. You'll get a sick ski and have a very personal experience from it
Sep 23 2009 11:58PM
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ReetsAdeets
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Sorry bout the double post, but i had another idea. If you want something in between the Hellbent and the JJ, you should look at the ON3P Caylor-lighter than the hellbent, a little bit thinner, a little stiffer (Bents are really soft btw), but without the reverse sidecut of the JJs. Just one more option. and they are on presale for way cheaper than this years Hellbents or JJs.
Sep 24 2009 12:01AM
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mark@snoq.ski
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is it true the hellbents are really that bad on groomers or am i just hearing this from some racer
Sep 24 2009 12:26AM
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ReetsAdeets
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Ur just hearing that from some racer. They arent as good as the JJs, and are a little hard to get on edge, and they chatter (apparently, i dont even notice) but they are fine.
Sep 24 2009 12:40AM
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mark@snoq.ski
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where do you mount Hellbents ? for the best powder skiing and the occasional spin?

Sep 24 2009 12:54AM
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mark@snoq.ski
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if you were me what ki would you chhose and why

thanks for the help

Sep 24 2009 5:54PM
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Mr_pretzel
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hey im 5,6 130 pounds and want a pow ski the can ski groomers and maby a few jumps and i got a few questions if you guys could please anwser
1. what ski jj, shotgun, helbents, czars, line ep pro, any suggjestions?
2. what bindings to get?
3. What size ski to get?
thx guys
Sep 24 2009 6:22PM
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Valind
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JJ's.  Most all around ski I have ever skied on.  Boobs everything with ease
Sep 24 2009 6:22PM
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sam.gillin
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for snoqualmie we get a lot of crud and heavier snow so the jj would be a perfect ski. JJ is the perfect alpental snoqualmie ski. Hellbents would be good to if you are just skiing like 70 % pow and 30% groomed.
Sep 24 2009 7:06PM
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ReetsAdeets
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This is my friend with JJs. and I have my hellbents mounted 4 back from center, and it works great. And to the other guy, the czars arent really in the same category as the EPs, Hellbents, or JJs. They arent rockered at all in the tail, are pretty stiff, and are way skinnier. in my opion, they arent very much fun to ski either. if you want a charging ski that is still a fat powder tool, get chopsticks. they stomp cliffs like nobodys business.
Sep 24 2009 7:35PM
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Mr_pretzel
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i think im going whith jjs what size should i get 185 or 175 and what bindings?
Sep 24 2009 8:11PM
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mark@snoq.ski
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hey bro i think if your a good agressive skier go with the bigger ski..... hey does anyone know where i can find a cheap pair of JJ i have looked everywhere and have had no luck used or new?? thanks
Sep 24 2009 8:17PM
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Valind
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I have the 175's and I am 5ft8in and 150. i love them.
Sep 24 2009 8:40PM
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eli112233
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i'd say get the bents
Sep 24 2009 9:47PM
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Valind
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mark, check out this link..

Sep 24 2009 9:53PM
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selkirks
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I understand the desire to help this kid, but by entering ON3P into the mix you're only making the decision harder for him. The thread title is clear: "Armada JJ or K2 Hellbent?" It doesn't say "Recommend A New Pair of Skis."

That's not to mention the fact that I sincerely doubt that everyone on NS that has suggested ON3Ps to someone else has even ridden them. The level of ON3P-fanboyism here approaches blatant advertisement. That's not to say their skis aren't good -- just make sure you know what you're talking about (and have actually ridden them) before you recommend them. Again, this isn't necessarily directed at you, but to the NS community at large.
Sep 24 2009 9:56PM
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ReetsAdeets
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I get it, just throwin it out there because it seems like something with characteristics from both the JJ and Hellbent-might be his perfect ski. dont know though. I vote Hellbents. My favorite ski, except top sheet quality is absolute shit.
Sep 24 2009 10:28PM
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sam.gillin
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If you cant find JJ's cheap go for hellbents but look really hard. try tgr.
Sep 24 2009 11:00PM
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mark@snoq.ski
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Sam G dude i bet i will see you at snoq we should ride some time

Sep 24 2009 11:19PM
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regge
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my little cousin was in this perdicament earlyer this year he really wanted the jj s but the problem was they didnt make them under 170 ... the jjs are alot stiffer under the foot than the bents... my little cousin is about 100 pounds and 5 '0" he ended up going with the 169 bents which i think was a better choice because they are a more playfull ski than the jjs.. i have a pair of bents and Fucking adord them they are so sick for skiing switch on deep days and they are tanks in the crud... havent skied the jjs so i cant say much but from what i ve heard they were designed for big mountain charging with a lil stiffer flex ... if you have anymore questions just pm me
Sep 24 2009 11:26PM
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ReetsAdeets
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Yea. I ski with sam. we should all hit up duthie hill or something 2.
Sep 24 2009 11:37PM
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mark@snoq.ski
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dude F**king Huck it i just like got back from 2 weeks at whistler and it was tight.... i have yet to ride dothie but it looks tight yeah bro we should ride it sometime. do you go to PCFC with sam?
Sep 25 2009 1:25AM
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RAWLAN
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i rode the jjs this season and they were easily the best ski ive ever ridden. there awesome for charging slahing and i felt like they were super agile in the park
Sep 25 2009 6:34AM
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mark@snoq.ski
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does anyone know where i could get a pair of last year JJ or last year Hellbents for a good price?

Sep 25 2009 5:50PM
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ReetsAdeets
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U are sooo fucking lucky. 2 weeks at Whistler...but yea, PCFC. and Sam isnt that good at biking, he uses my old Karpiel. Hes learning quick tho.

Sep 25 2009 10:40PM
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sam.gillin
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haha yeah i kinda suck at dh and drops and jumps but i am learning as derek (F**k it Huck it) said..... I am a lot better on skis though haha.
Sep 25 2009 11:20PM
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sam.gillin
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You've probablyalready seen this but... The jj's are sold and no one wants to sell theirs hmmm. I wonder why. haha

http://www.backcountryoutlet.com/outlet/K2S0543/K2-Hellbent-Alpine-Ski.html?CMP_ID=SH_FRO002&CMP_SKU=K2S0543&mv_pc=r126
Sep 25 2009 11:29PM
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