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Whifazoo
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 ok so today i tride to 270 out more than 20 times on my backyard rail and i jsut can get it, i slide right foot forward and i want to spin left out (i can do it the other way super easy) i can just about get it, the only problem is that i constantly get my tip caught on the end of the box, and when i tried to lift it up it fucked my spin up. i also tried to do it later on the box like right at the end but i couldnt get the dig in my scisor to spin me around.

any tips would be super healpful and + karma to whoever tries to help

thanks

Sep 9 2009 9:02PM
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Style+eeze
Posts: 6901 - Karma: 551
if it's a box, try to do a switch 1 off. that might not make sense, but your skis won't get caught. once you're good at that, you can try again.

also, if you can do a clean back switch up, back 2s out are money.
Sep 9 2009 9:04PM
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pmw
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well, its easy if when you get on the box, you scissor your ski so it looks like this on the box / kinda. that will give you the grip, like really grip it with your inside edge, then you push off of that to reverse your momentum, keep your head turned over your right shoulder so you dont stop the spin. that works for me, but when i learned (on rails) i used my outside edge, under my foot and right at the end of the rail i just dug it in and pushed off that, but its not great for boxes and scissoring is
Sep 9 2009 9:05PM
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.SimonB.
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when you get on, just think of continuing how you popped on, but just wait a little later. you need to pop off, or else you are just going to start to go under the box/rail. dont know if that is clear. good luck.

Also spot it with your head.
Sep 9 2009 9:10PM
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Whifazoo
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im pretty sure you are talking about the way i already can like i spin left on and lead with my right foot and i wanna come out forwards spinning left off, i can switch up both ways and ptetzl 270 out easy as pie lol
Sep 9 2009 9:10PM
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Whifazoo
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i think that might be it , i might just need to pop more cleanly
Sep 9 2009 9:11PM
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Dustin.
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I find that looking back at the start of the rail as you start your  spin helps you get going properly, that's just me though.  It is harder on a box though, if you can give it a whirl on a rail that would be easier.
Sep 9 2009 9:11PM
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pmw
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your all confuzzled (or i am), thats backside, you would be spinning backwards. just towards the end of the rail, start looking over your left shoulder and at the end of the box pop off, your already almost facing backwards if you kinda spin on the box, ya just look behind you
Sep 9 2009 9:12PM
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the.hoffman
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For blind 2s out on boxes I find you do the opposite from when you learn sliding rails or boxes.

Instead of looking towards the end of the rail, on a box you can spin a little extra onto the rail to get the spin out started and then just let the momentum do the rest of the work other than popping off the end.
Sep 9 2009 9:15PM
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KennyC
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before you leave the rail set super hard with your shoulders so its to the point of you looking at the beginning of the rail than pop and continue to look with your head. its so much more easier to show you then it is to type it but i tried my best.
Sep 9 2009 9:27PM
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GKO
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put your leading foot at a slight angle, tails pointing down and lean on that foot this gives you a grip and helps you to stop spinning. then if your are sliding natural take your left arm and move it forward to start your 270 then use your hips to finish the rotation.

natural 270

put your leading foot pointing down (preferable when you start to get to the end of the box or your will just butter it) and lean on it then when you get to the end take your right arm if sliding natural and start your rotation and finish with shoulders and hips. Common mistake when doing this is ppl hit the tips into the end of the box/rail which is cool if done right but in order to not do this hop just a little and get your tips over the rail.

hope this helps
Sep 9 2009 9:51PM
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JahJahBinks
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Pop at the very end of the rail and pop hard.
Sep 9 2009 9:54PM
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Whifazoo
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thanks guys i wil give it a shot tomorrow after school and tell you how it goes
Sep 10 2009 12:09AM
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highaltNM
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they're always a lot easier with more speed coming off the rail (at least for me)
Sep 10 2009 12:32AM
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Ian.Ham
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instead of dropping your back edge on your front foot drop your front edge. that should set you up for the bs 270 out
Sep 10 2009 12:38AM
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EternalJens
Posts: 568 - Karma: 520
You have to do lock on to the rail with your foot like in the pic and then just use your front foot to push off ;)
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Sep 10 2009 9:57AM
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EternalJens
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By the way thats my frien eivind123, couldnt find a good pic of me doing it.
Sep 10 2009 9:57AM
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Steeze-On-Toast
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for back 270 out, use the momentum that got you 90 on the rail to keep you turning slightly on the rail, then lean slightly forward and as you get to the end of the rail, look back up to the kicker, pop, spin then because you were leaning forwards with your tips pointing slightly down, as you spin they will rise above the rail and then all you need to do is land and ride away clean
Sep 10 2009 4:00PM
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