A quick word on blocking ads
It looks like you are using an ad blocker. That's okay. Who doesn't? But without advertising revenue, we can't keep making this site awesome. Click the link below for instructions on disabling adblock.
Welcome to the Newschoolers forums! You may read the forums as a guest, however you must be a registered member to post. Register to become a member today!
those taper lengths are core taper lengths. that is where he starts tapering down the core to provide a softer flex. the early taper you meant to talk about is what is on his sheet as tip length. Normal tip length is about 10cm or so, but you can make it longer moving the fattest part of the tip in, making the skis turn shorter(especailly in pow). Every ski not made for pure park or groomers should have this, it kills crud and ups the pow performance huge. For one idea of a tip with a small bit of taper, look up pics of k2 coombas. jjs have more taper.
neither of those have to do with length from boot center to widest point of ski..
and mostly TALK TO MICHAEL. a bunch of kids on ns are going to give you bad information.
and most of all, the guy that said it needs more sidecut IMO is wrong. Most skis should not be anything close to a slalom ski. I personally did not like using my sl skis anywhere outside of the course when I raced. I liked SG and DH boards best for groomer cruising, just long smooth turns. When I can, I get my skis with minimal sidecut. my 333 ski(talked over with Michael already) is a 194 with dims of either 140 or 138 in the tip, 118 underfoot and 124 in the tail. obviously more than the dims make a ski, though..
SFBs=terrible example. That taper is so small and you can't even see it looking at the skis. IMO they turn short because they are short(for a non park ski) and are also soft.
and did you read my other post? If you put 50cm of early taper like you were saying that's over twice as much as EHPs, about 2X JJ early taper... Before posting, know what you are talking about. With 50cm early tip taper 45cm tail(i think that is what you said earlier) plus a normal tip and tail(lets say 10cm each) that leaves you 50cm of sidecut stupid. Those measurements you gave are core taper lengths that Michael put on your sheet because they fit , and thats not what you meant to talk about.
what you meant to talk about is tip length. Giving a ski a longer tip length is not a good thing on groomers or in park(with exceptions, some people like the taper of Alpha 1s) but it is a great thing in crud and pow. if you make the widest part of the tip of a ski come in 20cm, your skis turn much shorter in pow(and groomers) than the ski length implies, but with more stability than a shorter ski. and it sort of slices through crud better. Do I need to get any more detailed?
And Charmander, I understand your reasoning. I liked the way my slalom skis made short turns, but when not skiing slalom I never want to make turns that short. It's preferance, which is another reason this thread doesn't have much point. If I wanted a ski with a 105 waist(then I would want Shoguns BUT) I would not want it to make tiny little groomer turns.
