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armadajj09
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These people piss me off.......to be continued.
Jun 30 2009 5:07PM
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Holte
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I think religious stories can provide a fair amount of insight into the religion, just as historic fables and stories with morals can provide insight into the communities they came from. But I agree that debate over legitimacy requires vastly more context and knowledge than does insight into a certain community.
Jun 30 2009 7:01PM
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Jamestown
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but californians wouldnt be misled if the mormon church hadnt funded the ProtectMarriage campaign. my guess is that youre from slc and youre getting defensive because your church was behind this
Jun 30 2009 7:06PM
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liaosongfang
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this is the bottom line.  armadavaJJ, your logic is like giving credit to the organizers of a pep rally for winning the championship game.  i don't care how many fireworks and how sick it was - the players were the only ones on the court.  prop 8 was passed by voting.  very simple.  californians went and voted.  most of them voted for prop 8.  simple.
Jun 30 2009 7:07PM
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wolf.
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I have to say I do have quite a few Mormon friends because I live in Utah and really its not too bad, I don't bother them about religion and neither do they to me. Its really no big deal because its their own fucking religion and choice to believe in what they believe in and i expect them to show me the same respect. Which is what you would expect of everyone right? Even though the mormon religion is weird at best, who cares? MInd your own business dude, you are very ignorant for making this post. Its really not that hard to live around a bunch of them because they are all just about the nicest people you'll ever meet.
Jun 30 2009 7:08PM
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armadajj09
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To your face, yes, thats very true. 
Jun 30 2009 7:10PM
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vincentlee223
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Jun 30 2009 7:11PM
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wolf.
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But I do have to say I hate what their church did about Prop 8. And they way they act about homosexuals. They say it is a serious sin. which is wrong. who cares who people love
Jun 30 2009 7:12PM
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wolf.
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Yes, but thats better than the people you meet that are flat out rude to your face
Jun 30 2009 7:14PM
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Jamestown
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it started with door to door mormonism, now its state to state
every state that will put this issue on the ballot will have mormons there fighting it
Jun 30 2009 7:14PM
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armadajj09
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so your telling me not to hate of judge them, isnt that what they did about prop 8?  I thought there all great?  Hmmm....maybe thats what they want us to think.
Jun 30 2009 7:14PM
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liaosongfang
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you can't be serious.  misled?  so the mormons are to blame if californian voters don't educate themselves on the issues before voting and base their votes on one campaign?  you sound like the fatass that tried to sue mcdonalds for making him fat.  seriously? how many different ways do you want to place the blame on a church when IT WAS THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA THAT VOTED FOR PROP 8.
Jun 30 2009 7:14PM
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youRsmellA
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everyone is looking at the prop 8 thing the wrong way. Its perfectly ok for religious institutions to campaign for their beliefs, they are people just like us. the problem here is that the mormons lied about their involvement, they gave 100 times as much money as they first claimed.

 As a religious institution they are exempt from many taxes and also do not often have to disclose their financial records. With this cover they can bribe politicians, and hide from the taxes they do have to pay.

Basically people are finding out the mormons lied behind the cover of religion while meddling in public affairs. Now, people are suspicious of other things they have done.
Jun 30 2009 7:16PM
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armadajj09
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you must be from SLC
Jun 30 2009 7:16PM
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armadajj09
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i now hate them even more.
Jun 30 2009 7:18PM
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wolf.
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well i guess you cant be the better person then? i said what they did with prop 8 was wrong, but doesnt mean you should bash a religion. I mean really dude, act the way you want to be treated
Jun 30 2009 7:18PM
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Jamestown
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EXACTLY! thank you to the above posts
Jun 30 2009 7:18PM
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Jamestown
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not what shibbysheila said, the two above her
Jun 30 2009 7:19PM
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armadajj09
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the mormons do bash others. 
Jun 30 2009 7:19PM
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MAPLE_SYRUP
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if i got kicked out on my ass when i hit 18 that would suck
Jun 30 2009 7:20PM
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liaosongfang
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yep.  you must have lacked anything substantial to say.
Jun 30 2009 7:22PM
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Jamestown
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but if mormons are bashing homosexuals, doesnt that give people the right to bash mormonism and fight against injustice? the mormons preached hate, and they receive hate in return
Jun 30 2009 7:23PM
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armadajj09
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no, I have plenty.  I just assumed you to be from SLC
Jun 30 2009 7:24PM
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wolf.
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Holy shit man do you not get what I'm trying to say? Who gives a fuck what they do to other people!! All I'm saying is, be the bigger person and don't talk shit about them. Because not EVERYONE in the mormon religion is like what you're saying. A lot of my friends aren't ignorant like that. So you're just making assumptions
Jun 30 2009 7:25PM
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Balto
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i dated 1, she was a bitch
Jun 30 2009 7:25PM
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wolf.
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Well sure, but a hell of a lot of people bash on homosexuals and ALL of those people need to be taught a lesson. All i was saying was i know a lot of good mormon people that aren't the typical mormon you guys are saying. It was just an ignorant post is all
Jun 30 2009 7:27PM
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Jamestown
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ya youre right i shouldnt give a fuck that they tried to stop interracial marriages during the civil rights movement and that they are trying to prevent gay marriage now

Jun 30 2009 7:27PM
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armadajj09
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Hey, I am just going off what I have seen.  They look down on you  if your not one of them.  Like there better than everyone.  My buddy tried to play baseball in HS and the coach was mormon, they didnt play him as much cause he was not in there ward.  You think what you want to, I will think and express what I want to.  there not as great as you make them out to be.
Jun 30 2009 7:29PM
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liaosongfang
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no, you've got plenty of material to cut and paste.  nothing substantial to say.  not really sure what the point of this thread is, other than to bash believes that no one can ultimately say are right or wrong.  you don't like mormons.  good for you.  no one really cares.  if you know anything about the religions of the world there are some really really odd beliefs.  they are only odd to those who don't believe them.  get over it. 
Jun 30 2009 7:30PM
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wolf.
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Again, a hell of alot of other people are and were trying to do that. I know theres a lot of fucked up stuff about the mormons and what they've done. and I agree they should learn a lesson about what they've done, but I was talking about the normal mormon person doesnt deserve to be talked shit about that is all, thats like going on about how all hindu people are pissing you off or whatever. Its ignorant!
Jun 30 2009 7:31PM
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armadajj09
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copy and paste is a lot easier than typing.  work smarter not harder.  All I know is that mormons are wacko.
Jun 30 2009 7:32PM
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armadajj09
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I think your being a little ignorant.
Jun 30 2009 7:33PM
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Jamestown
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i am only targeting the ones that discriminate, i know there are nice mormons
Jun 30 2009 7:33PM
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wolf.
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I've dealt with that shit too, time and time again. but still all i'm saying is to show respect to other people! At least with what I've seen, as long as I show that respect to my mormon friends or to anyone they show the same respect to me.
Jun 30 2009 7:34PM
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youRsmellA
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not really because people who gain your trust can take advantage of you much more easily.
Jun 30 2009 7:35PM
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armadajj09
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but they are your friends, friends dont hate friends.  Thats why they are nice. 

Jun 30 2009 7:36PM
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wolf.
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How am I being ignorant? You are sitting there saying all these things about a different religion! Dude all I was saying was show some respect
Jun 30 2009 7:37PM
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wolf.
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Well everyone at my school is that way, including my friends. I have to say that I've moved a lot of different places in my life. Utah being the most recent. I fucking love it here because no one is rude. Like I would walk home from my old school and get flipped off from the kids on the bus. And even when people here and Utah are pissed off at me they don't do that shit
Jun 30 2009 7:40PM
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armadajj09
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do they respect?  Why do I always have to be the bigger person?
Jun 30 2009 7:40PM
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wolf.
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Because you know what I've learned, it pays off and people show you more respect after that. It also helps you brush remarks people say about you off your shoulder. Most people like that are more chill too
Jun 30 2009 7:43PM
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Gorilla.Steeze
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Jun 30 2009 7:49PM
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armadajj09
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Dont they go door to door to get people to convert?
Jun 30 2009 7:52PM
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wolf.
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dude, a lot of religions do that!
Jun 30 2009 7:53PM
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youRsmellA
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That's just not true. They are supposed to devote a year of their life to pushing their beliefs on you. They won't physically force you to believe but they will do anything short of that. They mostly convince you to let them help you so you later feel like you owe them.


Jun 30 2009 8:06PM
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ski-swagga
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i didnt read any of this thread but, according to my friend who goes to the U of U the mormon girls are the new "catholic school girl"
Jun 30 2009 8:10PM
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youRsmellA
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Most missionaries are taught to offer help with chores to get in the door of a prospective convert. This sounds like a nice thing to do but its deception. Politicians used to hand out turkeys during thanksgiving in the 1920s. they would then go around and remind all the families who accepted a turkey that they owed the politician a vote. or like when you order girls gone wild and they keep sending you DVDs and expect you to pay for them hahaha.
Jun 30 2009 8:18PM
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sconniestyle
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i'm not lds nor have i ever been.

 i identify most closely with the tenents of pastafarianism, but i feel that all organized religion is ridiculous on many levels.

however the impact religion has had on societal control and the development of folkways and mores throughout human existance can not be denied.

Jul 1 2009 10:08AM
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M.Tipsey
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momos are soo fucking crazy...
Jul 1 2009 10:55AM
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