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Is photography ruining skiing?

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KIRKCHAPMAN
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i feel like sense the entire sport of skiing/freskiing is based on photography and video, it has come to a point where everyone wants to jump on the wagon. does it seem like this to anyone else?

sense there are so many kids shooting everything that happens, nothing is underground, and the line between pro and am is so blurred freeskier is struggling to keep up.

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May 25 2009 12:17AM
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PBraunstein
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what?





without photography and videography we would be nowhere.
underground? why the fuck does everyone think skiing is this secret sport noone knows about. why wouldnt we want publicity to make our sport bigger and bring us more money for sicker equipment and better parks?



the line between pro and am isnt that blury... pros are getting paid to ski, ams are getting flow to ski.
May 25 2009 12:20AM
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DDrem.
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im confused as to what your saying, but if your claiming that there are too many kids who want to shoot pics of everything, then i dont see what the big deal is.
there can be kids who shoot real dope pics and dont have a contract or a job shooting, hence considered amateurs, but can still take a pic or make a great edit
please correct me if im off here
May 25 2009 12:22AM
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Malcolm
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what would happen to pics or it didnt happen? but seriously this is stupid
May 25 2009 12:22AM
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Mr.LemonPie
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Are you this stupid in person, or just over the internet?
May 25 2009 12:32AM
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N.L.
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we've all been waiting for the opportunity to shoot and produce our own videos, a thousand dollars can get you enough to make a pro edit, so it is a free for all.

as far as pros and ams blurring together, the technology is letting you see who should really be in the pro spotlight, any skier out there working hard to put something together deserves some respect for whatever they do, thats why everyone posts there edit, cuz it wasnt easy.

May 25 2009 12:36AM
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TWoods
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No,

just because everyone can do it does not mean that everyone is talented, and it shows.
May 25 2009 12:45AM
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eheath
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May 25 2009 12:45AM
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WHO_DAT
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Underground?


Wow I guess I've been skiing wrong all along... I always did it on a mountain.
May 25 2009 12:48AM
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N.L.
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i just realized your mentioning of freeskier, and im going to try and hold off on a rant:

the day freeskier starts running am photographers pictures with amskiers, which are just as good as half of the protographers, they may be able to represent the sport in some true light. but the sad fact is, storm mountain or whatever bases there magazine around sponsors buying ads, and if your company doesnt buy ads, then you dont get pictures. thats why every issue has the same skiers doing the same bullshit, in front of the same lens. the mag is paid for before it prints. i personally have been getting it sent to me for 5 years, free with no questions asked, hopefully this rant didnt ruin anything, cuz i do read it.

May 25 2009 12:53AM
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freezed
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your post doesn't make any sense.
May 25 2009 12:54AM
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ESB
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Sometimes it might seem like "nothing is underground" just because there are so many people putting shots up online. But spend any time on a mountain and you'll realize that 95% of the sickest things ever to happen on skis go down spontaneously and without a cameraman around.

Everyone loves to see shots of themselves and the digital revolution has made that possible. The line between pro and am is still clear to those who know what it looks like, and the broadening spectrum of people producing ski media means new levels of creativity and professionalism as competition increases. Sounds pretty prime to me!
May 25 2009 12:55AM
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WHO_DAT
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Took the words right out of my mouth.


The way I see it, I love that I can share the sport with kids and see their passion for it. We're all skiers and snowboarders and love the mountain and shredding all the same.

You should be thankful for how far the industry has come and that you can enjoy the sport that much more!!

Who cares whether the line between pros and ams is blurred? It's not about the money, or the pros getting the spotlight, or the ams getting the spotlight, or anything!


Learn to share the love, man!
May 25 2009 12:56AM
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Eastcoastr
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You are clearly one of the kids that are way too caught up in being underground. Yeah we wear gansta shit, yeah we keep it hyphy, but skiing aint some secret cult that people don't know about. People are starting to take notice and thats a good thing. Did you see Dumont on ESPN, skiing is finally getting the respect it deserves and thats a good thing. Sorry to rant but this is honestly one of the dumbest things ive ever read.
May 25 2009 1:07AM
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pikupfulofsnow
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the main difference between filming and photography:
photographers bite the labor of filmers day in day out!
May 25 2009 1:14AM
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thegoat
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naw the main difference between the two is that filmers need 24 frames a second to show what photographers are able to convey in one.

May 25 2009 1:17AM
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SEABURN
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the idea behind it for me is to get so many days in one season, the days I shoot aren't that close together... then I can go ski and have a blast charging stuff most days and shoot some of the good ones.... I hate always having to remind myself I have thousands of dollars worth of shit on my back... somedays I just like to goof. Most NSers like to film and or shoot ( it's fun)...so really you're just bitching to a bunch of asians about rice.
May 25 2009 1:33AM
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traylortrash
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hahaha
May 25 2009 1:38AM
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t_rob
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When was the last time you bought a print and when was the last time you bought a ski movie?
May 25 2009 1:44AM
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PBraunstein
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do you really think that most photographers in our industry make their money from selling prints to randoms???

May 25 2009 1:48AM
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ski-swagga
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hahaha wow.
May 25 2009 2:47AM
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nickyp
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This is true. Every other thread on here would be like "Shit, I just landed a flat 12 to cork 10/Claim".

And people would be like "Well, if he says it, it must be true. I wish there was like, some photographic record or something"
May 25 2009 5:30AM
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THUGwife
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think how stoked you get of sick edits. thats definitely not ruining skiing

May 25 2009 6:46AM
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Aaaron.
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i opened this thread hoping for an atleast somewhat logically valid argument.
i was extremely disapointed.
so you get a pick unrelated
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May 25 2009 9:04AM
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owen_rotondi
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you are pretty confused i think, ohh and since is not spelled sense
May 25 2009 9:38AM
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FREEskiLINE
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is this thread a joke??? we would be no where and i mean NOWHERE without vids and photagraphy... how do u think more than half the pros make there money through filming

this post was so stupid and u put up the worst argument

----k

May 25 2009 9:54AM
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Jib-Life
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I think photography and video's have brought the sport to new heights.

No one said you had to be all about getting the shot. I ski for myself, and almost everyone I ski with does too. If someone gets what we do on film, cool, if not, who cares.


May 25 2009 10:00AM
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VT_scratch
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LJs flip up is still underground, no one shot that!
May 25 2009 10:00AM
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heFF
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are you serious
May 25 2009 10:51AM
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sklermang
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May 25 2009 12:29PM
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finnajon5
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no! it is not ruining skiing, if anything it is helping

May 25 2009 12:34PM
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00000000
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Really?
May 25 2009 12:43PM
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Capurnicus
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were you involved in a brain injuring accident this weekend?
May 25 2009 12:56PM
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cousinmark
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i see what your saying, and i kindof agree,,,thres that joke how many freeskiers dose it take to change a light bulb,,,,,?,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,2,,,1 to chnage the bulb and 1 to film,,,,,(the jpke works with snowbrding and skating,,,,i find ui even funnier with skateboarding, skateboarders are the worst for that,,,, unnecesary filoming) so ya, there is something inherent about people who love freestyle sliding sports more than anything and filming,,,,,the two go hand in hand,,that being said to many people focus just on that, filming, evrything revolves around getting shots,,,,as if they were pro and had deadlines to make for addsl,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ike they force ther steez, dress up for the camera and stuff, do you what you got to do filming is secondary!!!!, i also feel that a majority of people forget that.
May 25 2009 1:00PM
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bob_dole
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that made me chuckle for sure.
May 25 2009 2:40PM
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PBraunstein
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dick.



when are you gonna be around SLC??? your african ass has to come chill at the new, robbery free crib!
May 25 2009 3:02PM
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mackinnon
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i literally just woke up, and i think its safe to call this the dumbest thing i will have read all day
May 25 2009 3:17PM
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SoupCurry
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fail
May 25 2009 5:00PM
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jerad
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May 25 2009 5:05PM
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Jordan
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I understand what you are getting at, but I don't really agree.

Yes, everyone and their mothers has a digital camera and thinks they are the shit, it gets frustrating some times but hey you deal with it. Occasionally I have people telling me how to shoot a picture, which as a photographer/artist is quite obnoxious. I think there is a very drastic difference between a person with a camera getting snapshots and a photographer if that makes sense?

Anyways I started with film and art then moved into sports.

I do sports for fun and art for myself.



May 25 2009 5:12PM
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Craig114
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there is nothing ruining skiing! it is perfect just the way it is.
May 25 2009 5:27PM
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RoadRash_Skier
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no way man filming and photography make this sport nicer!! look at other ''ordinary sport'' like hockey or basket, why would you make a basket edit? I think that filming is important to skiing cause it's kind of a unique part that the sport have

May 25 2009 5:35PM
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ScooterLapooter
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May 25 2009 6:03PM
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skithe49th
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luke your an orange name now! props
May 25 2009 6:06PM
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VT_scratch
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oh shit you just got owned by orange
May 25 2009 6:06PM
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Dntel.
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simply put, no.
May 25 2009 6:17PM
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ecjibme
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this should answer your question

https://newschoolers.com/web/forums/readthread/thread_id/461874/

May 25 2009 6:28PM
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Blandct
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^
May 25 2009 7:29PM
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Hack.The.Pow.
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hahahah guess we got it all wrong
May 25 2009 7:31PM
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.jon
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nope. you're wrong.
i like the photography as much as the skiing when i see a new picture
May 25 2009 7:42PM
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