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FKS 185 vs Jesters

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J-Wallz
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i just bought some new bacons for next year and was wondering what bindings i should put on them. is the FKS series really that amazing/bombproof and best binding ever? or would something newer like a jester be a better suited binding for me and the ski. btw im 5'11 and 175lbs if it matters. +++ karma for helpful ansewers
May 13 2009 9:30AM
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Caveman.
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FKS 155s would be the perfect binding for you.
May 13 2009 9:57AM
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Balto
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i just put 185s on my LL2s. pros of each

fks-ALL METAL, turntable heal, crazy bomb proof
jester-light, good din range

cons of both

fks-heavy
jester-expensive, has some plastic, the heal piece can come right off the track
May 13 2009 9:58AM
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ShadyHillGroup
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did you really ask if your height and weight mattered? ya maybe just a little bit...

how hard do you ski? what do you normally have your dins at? all that information would be pretty useful too. Everyone needs to stop saying fks are the end all be all, they are great bindings, but there are also plenty of other legit bindings out there.
May 13 2009 11:39AM
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MarkieR
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with a ski that is that wide and soft, i'd be hesitant to put fks bindings on them. i've ripped out fks bindings countless times from skis that were narrower and stiffer than the bacons. the fks is a phenomenal binding, but it performs best on narrower skis. the jester would be a better option for your application. an even better option, however, would be the salomon sth 16. i have those mounted on most of my skis and they're the shit. they never rip out, they never pre-release, they're bombproof, and they're cheaper than jesters. get the sth 16's and don't look back.
May 13 2009 11:48AM
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Caveman.
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The reason we said FKS is because he asked whether he should get Jesters or FKS. Not whether he should get FKS, Jesters, Tyrolia or Salomon. Just FKS or Jesters.
May 13 2009 1:15PM
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Caveman.
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I have FKS bindings on some skis that are 120 underfoot and never had a problem. I also weigh 190 lbs. I would agree with you that the Sallys are a better choice than the Jesters though. STH 16 and FKS 155/185 are very comparable and are both a high quality binding.
May 13 2009 1:16PM
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J-Wallz
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i normally have my park skis set 9 and that get the job done fine enough.. thinking about bumping up to 10.  i ski pretty aggresivly when i get the chance. ill be living in Colorado next year instead of ohio so will have more of a chance. also im open to other suggestions too. ill look into the sth16 some and see if i can find agood deal
May 13 2009 2:08PM
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Caveman.
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If you use a 9 or 10 Din FKS 185s will be over kill.

STH 16s, or FKS 155s will be a good binding for you. Tyrolia makes some solid bindings as well. I have never used them or dont know much about them so I dont want to reccomend them but do a little research on them.
May 13 2009 2:13PM
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BootySpunk.
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Get fks 155s so our skis can match and than put a big black NS sticker on one of the skis.
May 13 2009 2:22PM
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J-Wallz
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that 9/10 din is when i ski park and want it to fall off when i crash.... my bacons will be the allmtn/pow ski so would use a din of 13ish and the reason im looking at a 185 is i can get them in good condish for 120.. but if it is truly overkill ill look more into a a155 or sth 16
May 13 2009 2:30PM
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Balto
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this. my 185s are being set at 13 or 14
May 13 2009 2:36PM
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ShadyHillGroup
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this doesnt make sense....

why do you need a din so high for all mtn. riding. it seems to me like you are just getting the fks because "all the cool kids are riding them." there is no need for a 13 din if you are just cruising around dropping the occasional cliff. on the other hand you might want a din that high if you are hitting the big lane in freeway. I think you need to re think what you are buying. look at the fks 120 and jesters, if you are set on a metal binding maybe the sth16 or 155 but dont get the 185s because its a good deal..
May 13 2009 2:44PM
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Caveman.
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I dont get why people set their different skis differently. You should find a setting that is reliable and use that for both. Why would you set your park skis lighter and your all mountain skis way higher? Thats asking for injury from either not releasing or prereleasing. I would talk to a shop about what DIN you should ride at, use that as a base. You will probably end up turning them up from what they suggest. But having a difference of 3-4 DIN is a lot.
May 13 2009 2:46PM
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ShadyHillGroup
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i wasn't referring to any of the post in this thread, just the fact that there are kids here patronizing FKS that have never even ridden them
May 13 2009 2:46PM
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ThUnDeR^DuCK
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dead bolt 18's are your best bet for sure. unless you want thunderization when flipping out of your bindings down a slope. i'm a certified binding expert so i know what i'm talking about.
May 13 2009 2:48PM
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J-Wallz
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how does not setting a higher din not make sense for when your in the pow.... and thats y i was asking because i saw a good deal and was wondering if they would be doable but i guess not so ill look at something else.
May 13 2009 2:50PM
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Caveman.
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Ya that is dumb with any gear.
May 13 2009 2:53PM
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Caveman.
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Bahahaha
May 13 2009 2:54PM
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J-Wallz
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 also i gained about 15lbs and got a whole lot better at skiing over the past season so i am looking to bump that din up from a 10. and along with that i am still getting better at skiing and want to have the ability to set it slighty higher if needed
May 13 2009 2:55PM
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Caveman.
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What doesn't make sense is having your DIN to low or to high. If you think you can handle riding a binding at 13 why would you have your park skis set at 9 or 10? Thats just asking to hurt yourself...
May 13 2009 2:56PM
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J-Wallz
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ok well the reason i think this is because i ended my season end of febuary and then the end of march i took a trip out to steamboat and skied around and 10 din worked fine for me (there on invaders btw) . when i was there i demo some gotamas and the guy would only put the din on 9 so when i skied the 2ft of pow they got when i was there i lost my ski 4 times in the deep stuff just by catching my tips a little under the snow. i feel if the din was higher i would have been able to keep on skiing. this is why im thinking of having a higher din for my pow/almtn ski which is easily adjustable so if its not pow i can always turn it down. i just want to have options
May 13 2009 3:02PM
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ThUnDeR^DuCK
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do you doubt a certified bindings expert?? i will watch you pre-release off a cliff one day and laugh

dead bolt 18, thread closed.
May 13 2009 3:08PM
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Caveman.
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Different DINs on different bindings are different. Look tends to be higher.

DIN isnt the only factor in binding retention.

Turning up a binding to high to ski powder is just stupid. Find a DIN that you can handle and leave it there. (this could be 11 or 14) I dont know, go to a tech and get a professional opinion then go from there. Adjust slowly, probably 1/2 a DIN at a time until you figure out where you need to be.
May 13 2009 3:08PM
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J-Wallz
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this is kinda what i want to do with this i want a binding that will give me options
May 13 2009 3:12PM
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Caveman.
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Yeah, going to 13 on FKS after riding a different binding at 10 is a pretty big change. going from 10 on a different binding to 10 on an FKS is even going to be different. I think 155s would be good for you.
May 13 2009 3:14PM
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[~_~]
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I'm 145 lbs. and my DIN is on 13 on my FKS155s. I never prerelease, but I always release when I want to. For my groomers, my DIN is on 10. This is because I do bigger hits in the backcountry than on groomers, so a higher DIN is needed.

And what's with everybody saying FKS bindings are heavy? They're light as hell! S916s are an example of a heavy binding...
May 13 2009 3:18PM
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J-Wallz
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yah so back the the origional point of the thread fks or something else for a din range of 10-15
May 13 2009 3:20PM
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thegoat
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every post made in this thread so far is dumb.

fks 185 says the din range is 8-18, this is actually about 10-18. just labeled as 8-18.
to the kid who says he is a certified binding expert? what the fuck does that mean? that you are certified to mount and adjust them? because that just means you know how to turn the screw. not how it actually works.

To the kids suggesting this binding and that binding, and what din you, him and the rest of the fucking world should be at: do your selves and us a favor and just shut the fuck up already.

Overall don't arbitrarily set your din range. jumping from 9 to 13 or whatever some one said is a good fucking way to break yourself. there is such a setting as 9 + a quarter turn. Thats not saying you should set them at 9 + a quarter turn, but just that its a possibility.

So please everyone just shut the fuck up. 
 
May 13 2009 3:38PM
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FlyHigH^
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yourselves* - learn to spell, rager.
May 13 2009 3:41PM
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ryanwar6
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This one goes to 11...

http://www.rei.com/product/774539?cm_mmc=cse_froogle-_-datafeed-_-product-_-774539&mr:trackingCode=2538D5C0-521A-DE11-B4E3-0019B9C043EB&mr:referralID=NA
May 13 2009 3:50PM
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BootySpunk.
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Holy shit so cheap. Would these be legit binding for a park ski? Just looking for something to replace the shitty thing that is marker free 12.0 on my anthems.
May 13 2009 6:03PM
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ryanwar6
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They are shitty. I was making a joke with a quote from the movie "Spinal Tap". Watch this and you may understand.

May 13 2009 8:07PM
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beowulf
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hahahaha
May 14 2009 9:09AM
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Caveman.
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Who the fuck are you? Is this Cobra_commander's alias? Wouldn't surprise me because you are a bigger douche than he is.

People are suggesting bindings for this dude because thats what he asked us to do. No one in this thread has suggested a DIN range for him, in fact I think this post is the closest to suggesting a DIN than anyone in the thread.

Fuck off.
May 14 2009 7:21PM
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Dustin.
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It doesn't matter whether his binding goes to 18 or 15 when he rides at 13!  He could ride them at 8, paint 155 on the side and you wouldn't know the difference.  "All the cool kids are riding them"?  Are you kidding me?  They are without question the most solid and durable bindings out there.  Jesters have plenty of shitty stories to go with their good ones, so why the hell would he spend $225 to get them (a binding that actually is popular "because all the cool kids are riding them") when he could get the 185 for $120.

I don't even understand why it is a question.  Get the 185s.
May 14 2009 8:17PM
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Dustin.
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No, he's laughing because your comment was silly.  I like the 18 as well, but they don't hold me in any better/worse than my 155s.
May 14 2009 8:20PM
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loveyoursneakers
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Click for larger image
May 14 2009 8:22PM
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Dustin.
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Posting old pictures that people have seen 4000 times is more retarded.

Fail.
May 14 2009 8:25PM
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[~_~]
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Wrong. A DIN set at 8 on an 18-DIN binding will hold you in better than a DIN set at 8 on a 15-DIN, or 12-DIN binding for that matter.
May 14 2009 8:53PM
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ThUnDeR^DuCK
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you are all wrong. i am the qualified expert here you're all way out of line.
May 14 2009 9:09PM
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Balto
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your retarded, and not a shop tech
May 14 2009 9:16PM
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backwardsrider
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fks = more elastic travel

which means they are less likely tp pre release if you bindings arent cranked.

fks arent heavy at all either, if a couple grams at your feet makes that much of a difference, you either need touring bindings or dont need a din that high. 

May 14 2009 9:32PM
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ThUnDeR^DuCK
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it's 'you're' not 'your', retard. epic fail
May 14 2009 9:40PM
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J-Wallz
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thats not really an epic fail

and thanks to all helpful post
May 14 2009 11:43PM
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Balto
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it's called no one cares about the difference between your and you're on the internet. gtfo newb
May 14 2009 11:48PM
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Caveman.
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Pictures like this just show how sick some people are.
May 15 2009 1:02AM
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loveyoursneakers
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I didn't mean to offend. People use "Retard" on this site all the time. My uncles retarded so I know what it's like. And remmember your President made that comment about himself bowling " I was bowling like I was in the special olympics". Not everyone is Perfect.
May 15 2009 1:22AM
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ThUnDeR^DuCK
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if you're going to call someone stupid you don't misspell stupid
May 15 2009 1:54AM
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PaleCelery
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you are an idiot. just puttin that out there...

May 15 2009 9:27AM
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Deletedtoday
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IM A SHOP TECH AND KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT.

DONT GET EITHER, JUST PRETEND TO SKI IN YOUR MIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNDDDD.
May 15 2009 9:55AM
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