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PhattTim
Posts: 13943 - Karma: 83
I've just been arguing with a dude at 2am on a Thursday morning and I realised that there's one thing that pisses me off almost more than any other thing on earth. People who won't respect another person's opinion. I try to hold the utmost respect for someone else's morals/opinions and when someone doesn't hold that same respect back it fucks me off. Sorry, just a little agro at the moment, rrrrr, what do you guys reckon. I know Jay will have something good to say here, and Matty and Stevie and Andy, fuck, everyone will, haha, bring it lads.

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Apr 24 2002 10:01AM
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yeti
Posts: 6335 - Karma: 17
there are two things you should never even bother getting into an argument about: religion and politics. Those arguments always degenerate into nothing more than rhetoric filled mud slinging contests.

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Apr 24 2002 10:09AM
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TAK
Posts: 5007 - Karma: 14
Shut it Timmy, no one cares what you have to say.




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Hmmmmmm, if it really important (ie: religion, politics), then, perhaps, its less a matter of facts and rational reasoning, and more a matter of identity. Religion and political afilitaion are personal matters, that vary to such huge and radical degrees person-to-person, that they are in fact, part of the person and how they see their role in the world.

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Apr 24 2002 11:00AM
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flanker
Posts: 1009 - Karma: 11
I personally believe that no one should talk about religion. Its not for anyone else's business. Its your own beliefs and their own beliefs are theirs. One person doesn't agree with the other, try to tell each other whos is more important or whatnot....then war.
Middle East, Ireland.

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Apr 24 2002 11:57AM
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Canadian_kicker
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I totally agree with tim on that/ respect is what everyone deserves and no one shouldnt recieve it.. its everyones right. so everyone should dish it out
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Apr 24 2002 1:00PM
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FreshCoast
Posts: 5602 - Karma: 34
Yeah, respect. I like it...I like it a lot. oohgj craasfp mtay kehyboarsd isan aldfkll screwedss up asgian. DMAfadlit
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Apr 24 2002 1:03PM
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FreshCoast
Posts: 5602 - Karma: 34
Ok fixed my keyboard, sorry about that babble carp above!
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Apr 24 2002 1:05PM
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Detective
Posts: 2545 - Karma: 59
I slightly disagree on the everyone should just automatically have respect. I mean it's obvious there is the normal social respect but I beleive that people have to earn the true respect. But when they have my respect it's full and loyal.
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Apr 24 2002 1:28PM
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zoltyi
Posts: 540 - Karma: 10
Yeah,I agree with Detective. Respect is something you almost always have to earn. In Tim's case though someone who can't respect someone else's opinion is naive and probably can't win an argument without resorting to name calling and second grade crap anyway.


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Apr 24 2002 1:37PM
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rebel
Posts: 5198 - Karma: 22
I think everyone should be respected as a person. Respect as a superior person is a different story, but as a human, everyone has a right to think and believe as they choose.

I hate to disappoint you Tim, but at the moment, I don't really have much to add other than I agree with you.
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Apr 24 2002 2:33PM
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MART-IZZLE
Posts: 3429 - Karma: 13
Werd. lots of people piss me off alot. mostly madstyles. but they gotta learn to respect us before we respect them


I like palm trees.
I like to ski, but I hate the freakin' cold. Us indian people weren't built for the cold. Why can't ski hills have palm trees?

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Apr 24 2002 3:33PM
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Tele-Jibber
Posts: 2278 - Karma: 12
'If we ain't got respect, theres nothing left'


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Apr 24 2002 3:35PM
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coz
Posts: 1754 - Karma: 11
i personally think that there should be no more taboos. let's just talk openly about everything, and accept that different people have different opinions and beliefs. this is how we can all progress as people. listen to others and expand our minds.
Apr 24 2002 3:37PM
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SkierX
Posts: 16253 - Karma: 538
Ok, yah, respect. Respect is very important, and it's important. However, in a way, any sort of... discussion or debate in a way is going against respect, but it's in a respectful manner. Stating your opinions, and trying to PERSUADE someone to change their views is respectful. However... tyring to force the opinions onto others... is disrespectful. It's a thinnline, and you hage to be careful in debates and discussions... just try tho.
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Apr 24 2002 4:03PM
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ski2824
Posts: 1786 - Karma: 18
lol R-E-S-P-E-C-T! timmy's what it means to me! haha, i agree with the yellow donut
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Apr 24 2002 4:11PM
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rebel
Posts: 5198 - Karma: 22
Well put Coz.

Steve, I think the difference between having respect for someone in a discussion or arguement and not is saying 'You're wrong, and you're an idiot' and saying 'Good point, however...'
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Apr 24 2002 4:33PM
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Nine_Milla_Killa
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AHAHAH! Martin I love you man.
Everyone has my respect until they lose it. Thats the way it should be. Not like Detective said where no one has respect until they gain it.
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Apr 24 2002 4:36PM
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SkierX
Posts: 16253 - Karma: 538
Yah, im with 9MM... respect until the lose it. Start positive... that way you'll gain respect yourself...
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Apr 24 2002 4:38PM
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SkierX
Posts: 16253 - Karma: 538
and reb's i was sorta trying to say what u said in like one line. obviously it didn't come out well tho... damn.
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Apr 24 2002 4:39PM
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Stinkyprimo
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Our science teacher got really pissed at us and made us write a report on respect.. it wasn't fun
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Apr 24 2002 7:13PM
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PhattTim
Posts: 13943 - Karma: 83
yeah, good shit guys, werd to what everyone said aye. I agree with whoever said that we should all be able to just open up and have a huge ass discussion about anything and everything with anyone and not have to worry about being flamed or blasted or have mud thrown at us and stuff like that. To clear up what I said earlier, I don't think that everyone should have total and utter respect for someone just like that. I think that respect needs to be earned and grown over time. I do think that there is a certain level of respect that should be held towards anyone just for their opinions etc. my 0.02

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Apr 24 2002 7:18PM
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grehtnorth
Posts: 218 - Karma: 25
I hope you guys are right... I think I just tested it;) But seriously, I have respect for everybody until... well, until nothing. respect is a kind of aura that even two arch rival hockey teams have for each other. Boxers respect each other. I respect athiests.
I don't think they're right, but I still respect them, but that's another thread ;) have I told you lately that I love you guys? dwdw
Apr 24 2002 7:42PM
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MART-IZZLE
Posts: 3429 - Karma: 13
yea...good'ol newschoolers.com


I like palm trees.
I like to ski, but I hate the freakin' cold. Us indian people weren't built for the cold. Why can't ski hills have palm trees?

- Jay Surti
Apr 24 2002 8:07PM
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ESB
Posts: 9273 - Karma: 10,647
Babble carp?

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Apr 24 2002 8:08PM
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PocketRocket
Posts: 1251 - Karma: 10
trash talk makes people look stupid...unless your with the person and can prove your superiority to the human race...consider the other person your equal
Apr 24 2002 9:31PM
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Caden
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Respect is a valuable thing... if you can't respect somebody then you arent much of a person at all. When you disagree with somebody's opinion, you shut your mouth and let them think what they want. It is a different story when opinion changes to what they think is right. When somebody has an opinion it is what they think. If I said, in my opinion the sky is red. Well, what would you say to me? Hopefully nothing much bad because taht is my opinion, and hell, maybe i do see the sky as red. An opinion is an opinion. nothing more. Respect comes along with your opinoin. You should respect others' opinoins' if you want yours to be respected. Everyone deserves respect. Of course complete respect must be earned, but everyone deserves a chance. So next time somebody says something that u disagree with, remember that its what they think. It may not be wrong, it may not be right, or it might veen be the dumbest thing you've ever heard, but whatever it is, have the decency to respect them.


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Apr 24 2002 10:33PM
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Big_Willy
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Respect should be given to a persons thoughts/ideas if they feel strongly about, er, um, their thoughts/ideas. This stands (for me) unless someone is either really ignorant or stupid about what they are talking about. I get pissed when my freind bashes most of my music, even when I back it up explaining the lyrics or message, why I like them etc. Still he bashes my other freinds and my music, even though I like some of his music, as well as many other types of music, not just one gaundra (sp?). The funniest thing is that he listens to rap 90%, and 10% dance. But wait, theres more, HES WHITE! He totally mocks my music, legitimate stuff that a lot of ppl on this site likes, while he goes on to listen to gangsta rap and all that shit. He also acts like a racist 10% of the time, I dont know if its a joke or not.



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Apr 24 2002 10:58PM
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rebel
Posts: 5198 - Karma: 22
The colour that the sky is perceived to be is a fact not an opinion. If somebody told me that the sky was red I would tell them that it is actually seen as blue. I would show them the proof of how the light refracts, and what we see is blue.

I'm not saying I disagree with you, I'm just saying your example wasn't the best. There is a difference between fact and opinion, and if somebody had the facts wrong, I would respect that they were misinformed or they misinterpretated something, but I would correct them. It wouldn't be right to let someone believe that a house is something that people wear on their feet.
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Apr 25 2002 3:08AM
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Freestyla_01
Posts: 8586 - Karma: 34
speaking of light refraction and shit for the sky to be blue, if we moved closer or farther from the sun, and the air composition changed, would it be possible to have a differently colored sky??? that would be nuts.

and also, i think to be respected, you have to respect people back. or first. whatever.
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Apr 26 2002 2:49AM
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Nine_Milla_Killa
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I'm not sure about this, but I think its has more to do with the actual composition of teh atmosphere; dust, debris and protective layers like Ozone or whatever.
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Good friends tell you about the time they nailed that broad....BEST friends reach over, tag your hand, and say 'YOUR TURN'


The most unfair thing about life is the way it ends. I think the life cycle is all backwards. You should die first, get that out of the way, then go live in an old folks home, then you should get kicked out for being too healthy, go collect your pension, then on your first day at work you should get a gold watch. You work 40 years until you are young enough to enjoy your retirement, you go drinking and partying, then get ready for high school. You go to elementary school, become a kid, you play, you have no responsiblities, you become a little baby, you go back and spend your last 9 months floating around in a spa and then you finish up as an orgasm!
Apr 26 2002 3:42AM
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ski2824
Posts: 1786 - Karma: 18
its also what your mind percives as blue. what if the only color you could see was red? then the sky would be red. dont listen to me, i'm messed up
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Apr 26 2002 8:19AM
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sirjibsalot
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yeah theres no respect anymore
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Apr 26 2002 5:44PM
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