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Best all-around skier ever

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treebeard
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who do you think is the greatest skier of all time, not just including park? like counting downhill, moguls, etc.

i know guys like tanner and olsson have been known to slay the bumps occasionally, but i also know they arent the only multi-dimensional skiers out there. i think this could get interesting, and possibly help kill the myth that all non-park skiers are gapers
Apr 8 2009 10:22PM
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MatRich
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tom wallisch!!

hahahahaha                       NO

Apr 8 2009 10:24PM
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[~_~]
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Travis Rice ain't got shit on Durtschi.
Apr 8 2009 10:24PM
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bpalmer
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candide pep or tanner
Apr 8 2009 10:24PM
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treebeard
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hahahaha i guess it had to happen sooner or later. wasnt expecting first post, but its a start
Apr 8 2009 10:25PM
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Pinguu
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Johny Mosely lol
Apr 8 2009 10:25PM
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i.ski.troll.
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tanner didnt just hit the moguls ocasionally...  he used to compete before he hit the park/pipe scene
Apr 8 2009 10:25PM
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KellyK
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jon olsson

not only does he destroy every jump ever made, he's also running the olympic level racing circuit
Apr 8 2009 10:27PM
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MatRich
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you said it best brother!
Apr 8 2009 10:27PM
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Mex_LineJib^a
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cr johnson, pep, tanner
Apr 8 2009 10:29PM
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AALT
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eric pollard.
Apr 8 2009 10:32PM
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skinakedfast
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Sammy C destroys park and backcountry, but i don't know about bumps.
Apr 8 2009 10:34PM
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Aaaron.
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freaking candide.
Apr 8 2009 10:35PM
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summersover
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Josh Bibby is pretty versatile
Mike Henitiuk also slays park, bc and he recently won some moguls comps
Apr 8 2009 10:40PM
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Malcolm
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scott vail
Apr 8 2009 10:43PM
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Hansel.
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SCOTT VAIL
Apr 8 2009 10:43PM
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Billups
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You laugh, but dude used to throw down.
Apr 8 2009 10:45PM
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cool.
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mark abma, tanner hall or jon olsson.

abma and tanner both kill it in bc big mountain and park. tanner skis moguls as well not sure about abma in that department.

jon's a sick park skier and also races almost at the world cup level.
Apr 8 2009 10:47PM
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dave44
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Jon's taken it as far as it goes in both park skiing and racing - he's changed the sport of freeskiing, almost single-handedly, and he's working hard towards olympic downhill skiing.

Apr 8 2009 10:50PM
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Malcolm
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great minds think alike
Apr 8 2009 10:51PM
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JosephStalin
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t hall and im not on his dick
Apr 8 2009 10:52PM
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AEROPLAEHN
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candide slays pretty hard
Apr 8 2009 10:54PM
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MatRich
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jon cant take it theres no way! he is good at big air and is mediocre at racing... thats all. he is far from impressive on rails in fact he sucks compared to other pros. he cant ski pipe to save his life, I think the biggest he ever threw in a pipe is a 5. his backcountry is nothing too impressive either, I think the guy is over rated because hes got a lambo and good looks. yah he made the doubles what they are today and he contributed a lot to the sport but as far as being best all around.... give me a break!
Apr 8 2009 10:54PM
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sneakerhead
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100% correct
Apr 8 2009 10:56PM
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garygohard
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tough choices

jon olsson, tanner hall, sr johnson, shane mcconkey and scott vail

SCOTT VAIL !!!!!!!!!

Apr 8 2009 10:58PM
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garrett.
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you do realize that jon used to slay pipe, right?
Apr 8 2009 10:59PM
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alaskakid
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this shows you don't know your shit about skiing. ever see jon in the tbc days in the backcountry? like when he tried a sw misty 9 over pyramid? and he used to ski pipe....

the reason jon isn't the complete best overall is because of rails, and just because of that. right now, i think its a close tie between candide, tanner, jon, maybe pep and durtschi, maybe sammy? hard question, much depends on what you value most.
Apr 8 2009 11:00PM
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Holte
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Candide. Maybe Pep. Virtually any pro can destroy the entire mountain though.
Apr 8 2009 11:03PM
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garrett.
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that was actually chads, up the gnar points by 10. and he overshot so add 5 more points.
Apr 8 2009 11:04PM
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MatRich
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by backcountry I mean actualy going into the powder and going off clifs and chutes, not smoothed out jumps... yes I did see jons switch misty 9 over pyramid but I consider pyramid and chads gap to be jumps in the backcountry not backcountry. and as for pipe, he does not slay anymore and thats a fact he even said it in one of his videoblogs way back when ( i think it was last years x games) he said the last thing he did in the pipe was a 5, and he went on to do one or two sketchy flat 5s. not that its not good, but hes not all around as good as other names in this thread

Apr 8 2009 11:04PM
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summersover
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in fact Jon won the World Superpipe Championships at least once
Apr 8 2009 11:05PM
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no_steeze
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mosley ftw
imo tanner sucks at bc, maybe it's just me tho
Apr 8 2009 11:06PM
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MatRich
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that I did not know
Apr 8 2009 11:07PM
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SirFryanator
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Jon also won the world big mountain champs a few years back, in 2005 I believe. He kills it everywhere. I would have to say Candide, Pep, Tanner, and Jon are all up in the top best in the world. There are most definitely others out there that are pretty unknown but I'd say those 4 take it.
Apr 8 2009 11:09PM
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skier_boy26
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so basically you dont know shit?

I'm not arguing on the side that Jon is the best all around skier (although you could make a pretty good claim that he is up there).

1) He won the first x games pipe. He has won US open pipe, wsi, etc. The guy wasn't boostin like candide, cr, creighton of the days of old, but he was slayin.

2) you weren't very aware of his early shit to know that his rail game was top tier for a while. Since he drifted to more big ass fucking jumps, that has subsided.

3) his jump game is forefront. Half of the shit people throw now is, potentially, a result of the shit he has brought to the sport.

4) BC action is great. But, like point 2, it isn't as revolutionary as kids of today, but he has thrown some filthy shit in the backcountry.

5) big mountain ability is key, as he has won some stiff big mountain comps. NOT EASY when you're a park kind of guy.


eat a fucking dick
Apr 8 2009 11:11PM
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kiwisdontbounce
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that ^
Apr 8 2009 11:14PM
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sklermang
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that would be my choice, only he cant do rails. they would be so easy for him to learn tho so who cares
Apr 8 2009 11:19PM
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MatRich
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hey thanks a lot man that was realy nice of you! I give an argument which now I realise is wrong thanks to other people who are civilized and correct me somewhat nicely. you on the other hand think hey this guy has it wrong... hes a fucking ass whole fuck this guy he should eat a dick for not being as informed as me! was I ever a dick? NO... then shut the fuck up and grow up, I dont give a fuck if your karma is high, that was some fucking noob quality posting from your part.
Apr 8 2009 11:27PM
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triebby
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T-Hall and T-Rains
Apr 8 2009 11:42PM
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summersover
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yeah there was no need to be a dick
Apr 8 2009 11:44PM
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panojibber
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This is newschoolers, what did you expect? Lol.

Besides, if skiing is turning and you don't have to turn well to ski park wouldn't that make doug coombs the best? He fucking slayed.

Theres so many guys out there that are killing it and get no recogniition, theres no way NS can decide on who's the best. The thread title should be "who is the best all-around skier known to newschoolers.com".

Apr 8 2009 11:44PM
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Dustin.
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Candide is my favorite, Tanner is an incredible athlete in every way, and Eric Pollard is pretty damn impressive when he slays park, then heads out to Haines to ski ridiculous runs switch.
Apr 8 2009 11:50PM
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faceshotforlunch
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dane tudor?
Apr 8 2009 11:55PM
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East.
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jon (no one else has a race game as well as a park ability like him)

but candide, tanner and pep have all shared podiums at X, and yet they're slaying backcountry like no other.
Apr 9 2009 12:02AM
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ben_southworth
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easy killer.

1) like has already been stated, more than once i think, he USED to slay it. Unfortunately, that does not mean he can even think about competing in a pipe competition today.

2) see #1. you made the same stupid point twice. It does not matter what he could once do, we are discussing who is CURRENTLY the best all around skier.

3) despite the relatively common misconception, Jon was not the first to throw double flips or off-axis double flips. therefore, he did not bring "the shit" to the sport.

4 thrown some filthy shit in the backcountry implies jumps, although you didn't specify. and this point was made earlier as well, that jumping chads is, although ballsy, not what backcountry skiing implies. in which case, I have not seen him throw anything especially filthy in the BC

5) Congratulations! Valid Point Number 1!

I love Jon, he's a great skier, but if your going to be a dick to someone, at least make good points

very clever insult to end on by the way
oh so witty.

Apr 9 2009 12:17AM
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backyardbooter
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the obvious choices are tanner, pep, cr, candide and jon... but Mosely did shred really ahrd everywhere back in the day, also i'd have to go with a guy like pollard who absolutely kills it in the bc and has progressed backcountry skiing so much and has also been really progressive in the park. My vote is with him or maybe durtschi who reminds me a lot of him. And i agree with whoever said tanner sucks at bc, not that i think he sucks but there is just something off hes not quite up to par with the greats. Dane tudor and kye would also be in there, maybe the petit bros too. there are just too many
Apr 9 2009 12:18AM
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SirFryanator
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as I said before, he won major big mountain comps in the not so far away past and is still winning x-games and FIS race comps. I think he still is on top of his game.
Apr 9 2009 12:20AM
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Style+eeze
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all that have been named in this thread. but scott vail ftw!
Apr 9 2009 12:20AM
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pikupfulofsnow
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for the time, no question glen plake
Apr 9 2009 12:25AM
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easy_cam_steezy
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Pep Fujas
no doubt about it
the dude slays slopestyle, pipe, BC, big mtn. pow
the man has it all!!!
Apr 9 2009 12:34AM
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T_K
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this is ridiculous. we actually ARE talking about the all-time best, so yes jon can be mentioned. and yeah candide dominates everything he touches. but only t-money went from dominating slopestyle, to rails and urban, to BC booters, to pipe, to backcountry (which he currently dominates, along with pipe). Can that be argued with??? plus we all saw the boom edits, he can still slay the shit out of rails better than everyone but maybe 5 pros out there....?
Apr 9 2009 12:40AM
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