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270 out help/ CANT SCISSOR!

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mBall
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ok so ive been trying to get 270s out and im having problems! Ive tried front side, and back side, and i just cant do it! Im getting really frusterated. Anyways, So I cant scissor? Ive been trying them on flat boxes and a narrower up box? we dont have any good rails to try them on. I need help! Do i need to pop more? or is all in the scissor? Are there any good vid tutorials or what foot to scissor when riding on a certain side? Gah, i need help...

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Mar 27 2009 8:31PM
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waspy
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i might be right i might be wrong...but 2 weeks ago i was in your position. the way i scissor is i point my front foot 45deg to the the box-->then try to grip the edge of the box with the ski.  it worked for me. basically go nice nd slow to start, feet wider apart is easier and play around with the angle of you front foot and moving it to the edge of the box.  

when you edge ends up gripping on the box you will feel your rotation on the box stop and you start to be pulled around straight, then just pop off the box spin right land switch (for right foot forward).

Mar 28 2009 3:47AM
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f.ray
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your upper body and arms/hands guides you. put them where you want to go or do , and it will be lots easier...
Mar 29 2009 4:04PM
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mBall
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so? just huck my arms? dont need to scissor?
Mar 29 2009 9:48PM
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mBall
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ok so questions.

#1-
If Im sliding a box/rail left foot forward and i want to front side 270 out (spin left), with what foot do i scissor? Do i scissor with the toe of my right foot or the heel of my left foot?

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If im sliding a box/rail right foot forward and i want to back side 270 out do i scissor with the toe of my front foot (right foot)??? or what??

Sorry, just want to get this cleared out
Mar 29 2009 9:52PM
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waspy
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well the way i do it is for a frontside (easier spin) i point my front toe towards the end of the box...i dont bs very well but i try to keep the momentum of the spin going off the box. i tried what f.ray said today, it totally helps.


Mar 29 2009 9:59PM
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cow.
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correct me if im wrong, but forward food is always the driving foot, so always scisor with your front foot. if possible, the back foot will help, but when learning, the front foot is much easier to scissor and spin off of.

i always spin with my fwd foot. natural or unnatural. so #2 would be yes you have it right.

but there is a whole different technique fro blindside 270. those are possible to do without scssoring. just go on the jib overcrooked (more then 90) and pop and swing your arms to complete the spin.

does that help?

Mar 30 2009 10:01PM
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mBall
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Sort of. So for front side use my front foot? Jib crooked what?
Mar 30 2009 10:09PM
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pbcrazy9898
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just keep trying
Apr 5 2009 4:52PM
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123ski
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you don't need to scissor too much unless you are trying to stop your spin onto the rail/box.  Most peoples problems spinning off is that they don't pop at all
Apr 7 2009 12:05PM
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cow.
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ok so i think this will help alot with frontside sw ups.

i spin left, so i will be describing this for a left spinning, right foot grinding person...

1 hop onto the right side of the box slightly, instead of straight onto the middle. land at about 45 degrees (makes it easier) ALREADY IN YOUR SCISSOR POSITION!!(front foot heel dropped) the longer the box, the less scissor you need.  land on the box with knees slightly bent so it it easy to pop off.

2 pop! turn your HIPS and, so that you land with your head still looking down the hill, so that if you have another feature right after it, you can shred it, too!

i hope this helped!

Oct 5 2009 12:52AM
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