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The History of Full Tilt

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yuck
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I read in Freeskier magazine that full tils were around in the 80s, designed by a guy who designed boots for astronauts, and were reborn by the creator of Line skis.

On the website though, it says the copyright belongs to K2. does anyone know who actually owns Full Tilt?

Feb 9 2009 7:55PM
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ReedSkis~
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FullTilt was recently bought by K2
however the original 3 buckle design was by Raichle, who however did the astronought stuff.
they explain some of it in the vids...
Feb 9 2009 7:57PM
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summersover
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yeah but line is owned by k2 anyways
Feb 9 2009 8:06PM
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Style+eeze
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^ true

line is affiliated with full tilt right? not just k2

i guess technically they are all together
Feb 9 2009 8:08PM
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yuck
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i had no idea that Line was owned by K2.

does Adidas own Salomon? i think i heard that somewhere. or maybe im just completely wrong...
Feb 9 2009 8:12PM
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Style+eeze
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adidas the shoe company? nooo... i don't think so
Feb 9 2009 8:14PM
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yuck
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well not just adidas in terms of shoes. adidas in general is a huge company. im gonna look it up right now.
Feb 9 2009 8:21PM
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yuck
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In 1997, Adidas AG acquired the Salomon Group who specialized in ski wear, and its official corporate name was changed to Adidas-Salomon AG because with this acquisition Adidas also acquired the Taylormade Golf company and Maxfli which allowed them to compete with Nike Golf.

that is quoted from Wikipedia, which is totally unreliable, but i think i believe this.

Feb 9 2009 8:24PM
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Style+eeze
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seriously? jeez. +k for suprising me...

my brother just pointed out that's probably why mike douglas is sponsored by salomon everything, and adidas goggles.
Feb 9 2009 8:27PM
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yuck
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word good point
Feb 9 2009 8:33PM
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DirtyMick
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A lot of ski companies, and skiing based companies are owned by a larger group. i.e. rossingol owned by the Quiksilver co-op, salomon by addias, and so on. 

It's weird, but the ski companies are sometimes brother/sister companies competing against each other, yet still are under one major corp.
Feb 9 2009 8:39PM
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Style+eeze
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quad post!

volkl is also with line and k2
Feb 9 2009 8:44PM
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gcassidy
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is line actually owned by K2 cause i thought line skis were just made in the K2 factory? but i guess it would make more sense if they were owned by K2
Feb 9 2009 8:44PM
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Ben.
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rossi isnt owned by quicksilver anymore

however rossi owns
look
dynastar
lange
and coreupt i would assume
Feb 9 2009 8:45PM
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Style+eeze
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epic thread steal, sorry guys

but, i don't think that coreupt is owned by rossi, they just use the molds from dynastar skis. i'm pretty sure they are a seperate economic entity
Feb 9 2009 8:49PM
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Ben.
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ah. ok. i wasnt sure on that one.
Feb 9 2009 8:52PM
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BigM1218
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Full tilts are just raichles reborn into a freestyle boot company. Its the same 3 piece mold that was bought by k2 in like 05 or something. So yea Full Tilt, K2, and Line are pretty much all together.
Feb 10 2009 12:17AM
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yeahitsdave
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levinthal engineered the flexon mold purchase with k2s money. so in a round-a-bout way, they both worked it out
Feb 10 2009 12:21AM
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BigM1218
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im not so sure thats true dude, I could be wrong but i highly doubt that k2 and volkl (2 real big companies and big competitors) are together. Actually, wait maybe it does make sense cuz im 100% positive that volkl and marker are together and marker also makes bindings for k2 carving skis like the apaches and shit. so idk what to think now
Feb 10 2009 12:26AM
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jsaya_SagStraps
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you just contradicted yourself in the same post. edit much? lol, but really..
Feb 10 2009 1:03AM
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RICK_ROSS
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i literaly gave up after the first 5 posts
Feb 10 2009 1:05AM
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smoketoomuch
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U guys have no idea who owns who eh, check Jarden Group who own K2 Inc as well as another 100 companies in all business avenues, check it out if you think its a single ski company, they also own a couple of other companies that are well hidden in their system like Elan, Dolomite and shit loads of others

http://www.jarden.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=72395&p=home
Feb 10 2009 2:36AM
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smoketoomuch
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Also forgot to mention that although Raichle started the flexon in 80's is was being made in the Dalbello factory, they had the license to make it for Raichle and yes K2 bought the rights to the mold a few years ago although not the actual name hence they had to rebrand it. K2 Inc didnt do anything with it until they purchased Line and then decided to run this project together so they can sell Line and Full Tilt together.
Feb 10 2009 2:41AM
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b-kul
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roxy too. and volkl is part of k2.
Feb 10 2009 4:14PM
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DirtyMick
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Huh. When did that happen?
Feb 10 2009 4:56PM
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Ben.
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couple months ago. i forget who bought em.
Feb 10 2009 4:58PM
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DirtyMick
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weird. Quiksilver didn't own them long

Feb 10 2009 5:09PM
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HeartBeatFaster
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Whenever the manager at my ski hill sees me in my FT's, he stops me and tells me about the history of FT, Dalbello, and Raichlle... It has happened 3 times now. Looks like he is correct.
Feb 10 2009 5:56PM
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yuck
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i think the best part of the Full Tilt story is how the designer who worked for Raichle designed astronaut boots for NASA. haha
Feb 10 2009 6:58PM
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EvanMeyer
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most confusing thread 09
Feb 10 2009 7:45PM
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blindside
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owned by newschoolers.com....which I think is owned by under armor now...
Feb 10 2009 7:51PM
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skates_mcfarlin
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K2 owns marker, volkl, tecnica, line, full tilt and some others

quiksilver sold rossignol to a private company with deeper pockets and more ski driven. Rossignol owns dynastar, lange, look. But dynastar still makes all the roxy skis and boots.

Adidas sold salomon to Amer Sports. Amer sports also owns Atomic. So Next year Atomic will be making salomon skis and Salomon will make Atomic boots and bindings.

Dalbello is still independantly owned by an italian company.

i think that should clear some things up.
Feb 10 2009 9:25PM
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BigM1218
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correct me if I'm wrong, but elan owns dalbello, i thought that was kind of obvious
Feb 10 2009 9:40PM
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yeahitsdave
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i def lol'd
Feb 10 2009 10:34PM
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uni-corn
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From what i am told, it was actually the previous, private owner that bought them back. Like the guy who used to own Rossi before the Quiksilver purchase.
Feb 10 2009 10:38PM
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IanAvery-Leaf
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Yup
Feb 11 2009 5:57AM
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jibjunkie
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leventhal purchased the molds in 2005 but k2 wrote the check i think
Feb 11 2009 7:15AM
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FUUUCK
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used to I think, Salomon is now oened by Amer Sports, which owns atomic and a whole bunch of other brands. I think they own mavic too.
Feb 11 2009 10:05AM
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FUUUCK
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no roxy is apart of quicksilver, dynastar manufactures the skis though.
Feb 11 2009 10:07AM
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mac.N.steeze
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sweet jesus to much buying and selling going on for me to handle
Feb 11 2009 1:37PM
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DirtyMick
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And what have we learned from this thread kiddies?


 The ski market is a CLUSTERFUCK.

/endthread.
Feb 11 2009 5:00PM
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Deletedtoday
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i own newbs
Feb 11 2009 5:57PM
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Panchuk
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lol.


I never knew anything like this.
Ski companys owning other ski companys.

Wouldent they compete with one another?
Feb 11 2009 7:31PM
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summersover
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er... well they do
Feb 11 2009 8:04PM
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Chrris
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roxy is just the only girls part of quicksliver
Feb 11 2009 8:18PM
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DirtyMick
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They do.  While you think you're being core, supporting Line, you're really paying all the kids in china that make K2 skis too!!


Feb 11 2009 9:32PM
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