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Faction vs KISS

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JIBCULTURE4LIFE
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http://www.myvirtualpaper.com/doc/Skipress-us/SIA_D3_web/2009012901/


flip through till like page 5 or 6
Jan 30 2009 12:03PM
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emopoppins
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a black jacket?

trendyyyyyy.
Jan 30 2009 12:16PM
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B-Wald
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didn't they learn from line?
Jan 30 2009 12:27PM
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wiglaf
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suicide.
Jan 30 2009 12:29PM
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chewy15
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what were they thinking. after the whole issue with the anthem you'd think these people would learn

Jan 30 2009 12:31PM
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Tinga
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no it usually takes other companies a couple years to copy line.
Jan 30 2009 12:31PM
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BigM1218
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im missing something, what are we looking at?
Jan 30 2009 12:35PM
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N_well23
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page 12-13. An article about Gene Simmons filing a lawsuit against faction
Jan 30 2009 12:47PM
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a_pla5tic_bag
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haha
Jan 30 2009 12:51PM
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JIBCULTURE4LIFE
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you may not know, but k2 had a little mis hap as well with them. but i think they got it be for it went to press.not sure




man MR.Simmons is on his $#!*


Jan 30 2009 12:53PM
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Klick_2_klaim
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If Gene Simmons died a quick painless death, the world would be a better place.
Jan 30 2009 1:13PM
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FUUUCK
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that was really stupid of faction, at least the line topsheet was arguably kiss inspired but had no definitive band members on it.

I'm incredibly surprised Gene was walking around SIA.

Jan 30 2009 1:13PM
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Pippin
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Where was I..what happened with line and Kiss?...but damn sucks for faction
Jan 30 2009 1:14PM
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freeskibum82
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dumb dumb and even dumber... idiots... of all people to mess with... dont mess with gene... or metallica... people should know this by now... be safer using twister sister for graphics..
Jan 30 2009 1:23PM
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FUUUCK
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Before your time
Jan 30 2009 1:25PM
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ski@jaypeak2
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I think it was 3 years ago when they first put out the anthem Line got sued by KISS because it depicted a guitarist with facepaint.  Line couldnt sell the skis, that is why this year they released it with "limited edition" cutom topsheets, cause they needed to get gene off the skis
Jan 30 2009 1:34PM
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mackinnon
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i think you mean Line...?
Jan 30 2009 1:48PM
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waterfordsam
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The article said something about how it is just a sample they did for SIA, does that mean they weren't gonna put it on the ski they sell to the public? Can he still sue the shit out of them if thats the case?
Jan 30 2009 2:27PM
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a_pla5tic_bag
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Is gene simmons out to get ski companies? Maybe he had a ski accident when he was younger. 
Jan 30 2009 2:28PM
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liftedresearcher
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he had a ski accident at aspen and was suck in the deep snow on the side of the run for like 3 hours hahaha. it was on his show.
Jan 30 2009 2:31PM
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FUUUCK
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yep
Jan 30 2009 2:38PM
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cobra_commander
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No he means K2, It was before the line incedent, but K2 did a better job of not getting sued.
Jan 30 2009 2:43PM
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Commonwealth
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stupid stupid STUPID!
Jan 30 2009 3:45PM
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laurence^
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Shit if they sue faction...its over. Simmons was probably walking around because he knows people try to make money off him. How dumb can you be?
Jan 30 2009 3:45PM
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LauraAnn
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Gene Simmonds was at the keg in whistler two weeks ago, I guess doing research.
Jan 30 2009 6:33PM
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Literature
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I've never understood the reason why anyone wanted to put KISS on a graphic in the first place.
Jan 30 2009 7:23PM
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Craigskis
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That Sir, was really funny. +++Karma
Jan 30 2009 7:29PM
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k-rob
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first of all, stupid.
second, what a shitty graphic to potentially get sued for! i mean, KISS is cool and all but who wants that on their skis?


Jan 30 2009 9:51PM
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skibum00
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If they don't plan to sell the ski than i don't think there are any grounds to sue. I would be the same as if i drew a picture of him. As long as they don't profit from it.

I remember k2 got sued by Evil Knievel for the Stuntman graphic like 10 years ago. The had a little picture of him doing a wheelie on a motorcycle on the tails. half way through the season the picture disappeared from the ski.
Jan 30 2009 9:55PM
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dylansiggers
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Bam! Gene simmons!!!

Such a sick graphic, too bad they had to take em all back
Jan 30 2009 10:20PM
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inactive
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i will come to your house an take your skiis
Jan 30 2009 10:32PM
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ski_ENDUB
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Gene Simmons is first and fore most a business man and will capitalize on anything and everything that has to do with KISS. I've heard that he owns the copywrites to the term "OJ". So sending him a ski with a graphic that looks like him is like sending him evidence for a suit. Keep Gene Simmons out of SIA for the saftey of the ski industry.
Jan 31 2009 12:52AM
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hartig
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ahh what is this big problem with the ski industry and gene simmons??
Jan 31 2009 2:07AM
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J.D.
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That's not copyrightable.
Jan 31 2009 2:07AM
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Faction
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Hi guys,
Tony from Faction here - just want to say thanks for all the comments. The skis look sick and we're pretty stoked that Gene has seen them - hopefully this means we can get the skis produced...personally i cant think of anything better than a 194 rockered, stiff pow ski with Gene's stage make up across them - but we'll have to wait and see after discussions with his agent.

We've had a TM lawyer on this from the start, so we're hoping for a good result.... even if we cant use this graphic the ski will still be out and it rocks!

Check out the website for more info and news:

http://www.thefactioncollective.com

Cheers!
Tony
Jan 31 2009 2:07PM
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ATLskier
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why does it have to be quick and painless. well. I can see quick though
Jan 31 2009 2:25PM
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Faction
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Don't jump on the bandwagon, things are not always as they first appear.

Check out this article!

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/31/sports/othersports/31ski.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=Faction&st=cse

Jan 31 2009 2:38PM
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goneforever
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He is actually working with some company that sells ski accessories called Moneybag. Don't ask me about the company; I read about this in the New York Times.
Jan 31 2009 3:06PM
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PacificRimJob
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Yeah.. when I showed up the first morning of SIA and saw those as I was walking around, I was kinda dumbfounded - "Gene Simmons sues line skis and then he allows faction to put that on theirs? wtf"


20 mins later I heard Gene was walking around, saw the ski, and is now suing faction..



Jan 31 2009 3:26PM
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soup
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perhaps one of the sickest graphics ever to grace a ski. sooo undeniably sick.

gene simmons is just a business man, and he is also very very stubborn. he knows what he wants and he will get it. faction are staight up fucking idiots to do that. seriously. you dont think taht gene simmons has someone looking at skis and snowboards, and skatedecks, anything with his face on to rip off the face. the article does say they just printed the one ski as a demo but i highly doubt that. they are gonna get fucked haha.
Jan 31 2009 4:04PM
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Literature
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Are you joking?

Anything Pollard has whipped up has been better than than the Anthem graphics that didn't run.
Jan 31 2009 8:57PM
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ski_ENDUB
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Definitely not a smart idea to ever do anything KISS related without paying for it, because either way you will in the end. I'm pulling for you guys though and really hope that you don't get anally fucked here
Feb 1 2009 12:25AM
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s_a_m
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hey i know the head of advertising for faction.  guess he is getting sued
Feb 1 2009 5:14PM
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J.D.
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Smartest thing you could have possibly done.
Feb 1 2009 5:26PM
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rhack
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So who's interested in buying a pair of these skis??
Oct 2 2009 4:25AM
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k-rob
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cool bump to ght e guy who bumped is but look at my post i was real gay hahhas
Oct 2 2009 4:29AM
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B-Wald
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not trying to be a dick, but i don't think the first part of this is true.
Oct 2 2009 1:19PM
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dice552
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Faction deserves everything that comes to them in this one
Oct 2 2009 1:21PM
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RoadRash_Skier
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they didn't take them out they just put a new graphic. If you take some athem EP special edition and take off a bit of cosmetic you can see the old kiss graphic.

Oct 2 2009 2:29PM
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skodeo7
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This is hard to believe. I can't believe another company went down this same road. They are clearly going to get sued.
Oct 2 2009 2:51PM
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