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Jamie_Baril
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a 08/09 snow watch.

Oct 29 2008 9:54AM
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Brit1275
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Yeah, it's about that time.

I will tell Kevin to get on it, that's his job.  It just wouldn't be right if somebody else made it.
Oct 29 2008 11:47AM
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cobra_commander
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lets wait until we get some snow, ok ya great.
Oct 29 2008 11:49AM
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coolhandluke
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the forums needs to know that WSDOT will be salting the roads this winter with salt from Chile this year.

we've even outsourced our salt. 
Oct 30 2008 10:09PM
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NoTeefa
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wow. exotic...
Oct 31 2008 6:50AM
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Literature
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Chile has some of the largest nitrate and salt resources in the world. The nitrates market and it's nationalization was a large reason for the 1973 coup d' etat sponsored by the CIA and US military that deposed a legitimately elected president who had already called a new election (Salvador Allende), brutally murdered a number of respected high ranking army officials and close to 30,000 Chileans, and installed a pro US dictator (Agusto Pinochet).

The lesson I guess? Your road salt can cause national disturbances.
Oct 31 2008 12:18PM
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cobra_commander
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FUCK YEA,

thats how we do shit. insuring cheap product
Oct 31 2008 1:26PM
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Deletedtoday
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debby downer
Oct 31 2008 1:36PM
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Brit1275
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Wait... since when do we salt our roads?

I thought we only sanded?  salt eats cars.
Oct 31 2008 11:46PM
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Brit1275
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oh, and kevin's too distracted by girls and not doing the dishes to make the snow watch thread right now.
Oct 31 2008 11:56PM
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coolhandluke
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wsdot stopped salting in the late 80s, started back up again about 5 years ago. 

they used 750,000 tons last year, and nationally we used 20.3 million tons.

still sand sometimes, but cite that:

  • Sand gets picked up in tires and ends up on the side of the road, rather in the driving area of the roadway. In heavy traffic conditions, it’s only effective for a very short time.
  • Sand can clog roadway drains and ditches. Sand in streams may have an adverse impact on marine life.
  • Maintenance costs for sand are higher at the end of the season than for salt or anti-icer chemicals due to the need for cleanup.

Nov 2 2008 7:37PM
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kevywevy
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but what are the effects of higher salinity in our streams due to runoff? how does the salt affect the fishies. plants also don't take well to salt. :(

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Nov 3 2008 1:29PM
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Tross
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Salt is used all over the roads back east. Eats up your car and the road. But it really helps break down ice in places that never get warm.
Interested to see how that works here. I'm thinking the salt will either wash off or just be used in wet snow (already melting).
Nov 3 2008 7:16PM
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Schoening
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its going to rust the shit out of your car...
Nov 3 2008 7:44PM
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coolhandluke
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WSDOT claims that

"Our past monitoring of streams, rivers, groundwater, and ponds has shown very low levels of chlorides from our routine roadway applications of salt or other chemicals. Levels found have been well below applicable standards or guidelines. We continue to monitor these applications to determine what, if any, impact they may have on the environment."
Nov 3 2008 8:37PM
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coolhandluke
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WSDOT claims that

"All ice-inhibiting products – salt and chemical anti-icers alike – have some corrosive properties. The question boils down to, “Is the extra cost of the anti-icers worth paying if they still cause corrosion?”

It’s worth noting that vehicle manufacturing techniques have changed. Many of the newer vehicles have components made of plastic, fiberglass, stainless steel and other materials, that are less prone to corrosion than is steel. In any case, it’s advisable to wash your car periodically through the winter to remove any chemical residue."

AND

"Anti-icing chemicals generally (it wasn’t clear cut in all comparison scenarios) appear to be more corrosive on sheet and cast aluminum alloys than salt."


Nov 3 2008 8:38PM
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Deletedtoday
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why don't they just use pepper? i mean come on its the obvious choice
Nov 3 2008 8:51PM
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Jamie_Baril
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duhh
Nov 3 2008 9:37PM
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Tross
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Oh wow - I feel stoopid now. haha
Nov 3 2008 9:46PM
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sdfjklioeur
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i shall solve this dilema temporarily
Nov 3 2008 11:07PM
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sdfjklioeur
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https://www.newschoolers.com/web/forums/readthread/thread_id/322506/

there. just pretend its the 08/09 since some of the reports automatically update
Nov 3 2008 11:11PM
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SushiMan
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WE NEED SNOW~ so pumpeddddd
Nov 4 2008 2:24AM
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AALT
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Mt.Si has a shitload down half of it! sooo stoked!
Nov 4 2008 11:32AM
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Schoening
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not just wash, pressure wash the underside of your car..
Nov 4 2008 11:35AM
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Shifty540
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The hills all around Ellensburg are covered in snow too. Looks damn good. All these whiny people in class are bitching about how cold it is and I wanna smack them.
Nov 4 2008 12:25PM
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cThorp
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haha yeah i know. everyone is complaining about the cold and im like,"i love it!" colder colder colder
Nov 4 2008 3:09PM
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