Welcome to the Newschoolers forums! You may read the forums as a guest, however you must be a registered member to post.
Register to become a member today!
Canada is about to make all downloading illegal.
Posts: 3757
-
Karma: 44
Posts: 43
-
Karma: 10
thats bullshit! does this include downloading software products?
Posts: 3757
-
Karma: 44
yeah, it includes software i think. uploading a youtube vid of copyrighted material can result it a $20,000 fine.
Posts: 8068
-
Karma: 42
id give up downloading some stuff for healthcare...
Posts: 61105
-
Karma: 118,269
you get healthcare, 19 drinking age and weed but no free music. Fair trade.
Posts: 15949
-
Karma: 9,431
Posts: 6598
-
Karma: 18
Posts: 1443
-
Karma: 15
Posts: 1248
-
Karma: 9
Can they really control if we download music? It's not like they can go into everyone's computer and search through it for illegal things. Either way this sounds pretty stupid.
Posts: 11149
-
Karma: 1,415
Posts: 1359
-
Karma: 19
Posts: 1583
-
Karma: 0
one step closer to dictatorship. jk.
Posts: 3980
-
Karma: 77
Posts: 4719
-
Karma: 20
who cares mang i've been infringing copyrights for years and still going strong
Posts: 7088
-
Karma: -19
18 to drink here in Quebexico, but it does cost a shit load more. This law is bullshit, it's not like it will change anything.
Posts: 11052
-
Karma: 113
Posts: 3788
-
Karma: 1,934
how would i survive? there never would have been a spotlight project for me
Posts: 3757
-
Karma: 44
yeah referendums solve everything
PLEBESCITE!
Posts: 6072
-
Karma: 18
More examples of 1984. So Orwell might have been 25 years early, but he is getting closer and closer to being right on.
Posts: 3080
-
Karma: 969
dont think it will change much...
its like that in the states isnt it?
and everyone still does it there
Posts: 4120
-
Karma: 41
i thought there was something wierd about our government issued red and white jumpsuits...
Posts: 3087
-
Karma: 169
a couple people will get fucked to make an example, then the number of downloaders will drop, but then people will start downloading again after they stop hearing about the trials. same exact thing happened here 6 years ago.
Posts: 13046
-
Karma: 18,292
It has happened before, a 12 or 13 year old girl was fined an outrageous amount for some songs she downloaded.
Posts: 2913
-
Karma: 385
Posts: 13046
-
Karma: 18,292
technically, no. But if caught, you will only be prosecuted under civil law, not federal. So no prison if your caught.
Posts: 2374
-
Karma: 14
Son, do you know why I pulled you over?
uhh, because I was doing 95 in a 30?
Well yeah, but more importantly, is that mix CD the second third copy of any one of those given songs?
I can't really remember-
Sir, please step out of the car
Posts: 21362
-
Karma: 5,141
This doesn't really make sense. Civil law pertains to interaction between citizens, rather than between the government and citizens. So clearly it's not that. Do you mean that you'll be prosecuted under provincial rather than federal law? Because that would mean that the offense isn't criminal, just regulatory (provinces aren't allowed to enact criminal law, it would be unconstitutional). I really don't know much about the nuances of our marijuana laws.
Posts: 31125
-
Karma: 336
If this actually passes, we (internet users in general) will be totally fucked because the only way they can inforce this is by getting all the ISP's in Canada on board. And if it ever gets to that point (where all the ISP's have t band together under the gov't) we are going to see a brutal monopoly/regulated internet which will suck some serious balls.
The internet will end up like cable...which is fuuuucked
Posts: 13046
-
Karma: 18,292
Posts: 10182
-
Karma: 66
does downloading from blogs count? or is it sharing software like limewire?
Posts: 6631
-
Karma: 41
I guess most of you are too young to remember the days when the was no such thing as bit torrent and limeware and napster. There once was a time when the only way to get music was to buy it. The free ride can't last forever. I'm surprised it has taken this long. That being said, if you actually read into this bill most closely, you'll see that it isn't as bad as the one currently in place in the US, AND if you are just one guy downloading songs for personal use, chances are you won't be prosecuted. However, if you're downloading 50,000+ songs, maybe. They bill is being enacted to crack down on those profitting from illegal downloading as well as chronic abusers, not really your average person.
What is really stupid is senator Larry Campbell is trying to enact a bill that will ban the NFL from Canada.
Posts: 31125
-
Karma: 336
thats reasonable then. I cant see how they could effectively track everyones downloads anyways...the volume would be near impossible to go through automatically with any sort of accuraccy.
Posts: 470
-
Karma: 10
no. technically it is illegal and will always remain illegal in canada (lets avoid that argument here) You are talking about it becoming decriminalized which has not happened and will not happen under the current government (possibly under the next liberal government) If you are caught dealing obviously you wont be prosecuted criminally and face large fines and potentially a long prison sentence. I dont think thats what you were talking about but it had to be put out there. As for possession, that is still a criminal offense regardless of what province you are in. However they are getting more lax on it in certain provinces so often police officers use their discretion more often and choose what they believe is the more appropriate option. You could still face jail time or large fines or because the courts are backed up you may just have it confiscated if its your first time getting caught. Some provinces this happens more than others. But it remains illegal and you can face prison time. But yes the route most often used is confiscation or fines with potential for criminal record. I know many people who have gone down all these roads, very few actually face jail time though, about 1/3 got fines and a criminal record.
Posts: 470
-
Karma: 10
ooops, and with regards to this thread, there will probably be a lot of loopholes and could have a lot of scrutiny such as if someone gets songs from places canadians dont have the legislation to enforce. a similar example is them shutting down poker sites in the US. Now most people who do that go onto european poker sites. Because the US has no jurisdiction over there.
Posts: 3204
-
Karma: 25
Guys, don't forget. This is still simply a bill thats been proposed, nothings set in stone yet. It still has to pass a vote in the commons where the government is in minority, and make it through a very liberal Senate.
With the Scott Brison (Liberal Industry Critic) raising as much of a stink as he is, it will probably rally the opposition to vote against it, Libs and NDP are looking for any excuse to snub the Conservatives nowadays.
All times are Eastern (-4)
