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what was the first "new school" video

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4real
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I think that PBP made one in 97 or 98 but i dont know where to buy it or what its called

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Oct 15 2003 8:42PM
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deep_powder
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i believe it was 'degenerates' ...dont know where to get it

Oct 15 2003 8:43PM
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Maximumsushi
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The first newschool movie is 'State of Mind'. Johnny made 'Fade to Black' the year before, but it was mainly a mogul movie.

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Oct 15 2003 8:43PM
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4real
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anyone know where to get those?

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Oct 15 2003 8:44PM
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Maximumsushi
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'Degenerates' came after 'State of Mind'. Then 13, then the game, then propaganda then Happy Dayz, then 1242 & RFA.
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Jibtech
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well fade to black was the first PBP movie, it had mostly moguls in it... Around the same time the Midwest All-Stars were doing their thing.... they had a couple pretty bitchin VCR-to-VCR-edit movies.
Oct 15 2003 8:45PM
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Durtschi
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13 was the first one i saw and it totally blew my mind, and thats exactly what makes a good flick


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Oct 15 2003 8:45PM
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Durtschi
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another great one was 'Supershow', all the canadian air force abck in the day


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Oct 15 2003 8:46PM
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auntsaltine
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if u havent seen Degenerates then i recamend u do its a classic fav of mine
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Oct 15 2003 8:48PM
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Jibtech
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pppssssss... rumors circuate... degenerates, 13, and the Game, remastered and re-relesed as a 3 disc DVD box set! Could it happen?!
Oct 15 2003 8:49PM
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the warren miller films were ot awhile back...........
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Oct 15 2003 8:51PM
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unrigged
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they werent newschool u retard, + propoganda was the best ski film ever made, its what brought me to newschool.





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Oct 15 2003 8:56PM
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vtrider
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Hot Dog, came out in like 76 or sumtin, soo badass.
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Oct 15 2003 9:22PM
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Irotate360
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id get that box set, state of mind was jonnys first movie and it was mostly moguls or that is what i heard
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Oct 15 2003 9:30PM
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Maximumsushi
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No. As said before by people who know what they are talking about, ''Fade to Black'' was (pbp) johnny's first movie. It was mainly moguls. ''State of Mind'' was basically a newschool flick, came after ''Fade to Black'' and was his second movie.
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Oct 15 2003 10:10PM
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caleBCaleb
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where can you purchase 'state of mind'? It would be interesting to see
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you can prolly purchase them all on the internet somewhere.











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Oct 15 2003 11:14PM
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Oct 15 2003 11:18PM
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freeskisquaw
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its air carving by mike douglas trust me
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Oct 15 2003 11:18PM
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jibsgrl
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i know 13 isn't the first, but its somewhere in the older ones...it's so much different watching those older videos compared to the new ones, 13 has like double twisters in it, not that there's anything wrong with double twisters, but compared to now, its quite a bit different.
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Oct 15 2003 11:21PM
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Kev
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I had a pair of Axecleavers when Douglas came out with that Air Carving thing...haha they were off the hook. The lifters blew everyones mind, i could carve a complete circle at the bottom of the hill if i had enough speed. Oh ya and 'The Game' now that i watch it still is fucking cool.


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Oct 15 2003 11:24PM
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mo-rod
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I got some 96-98 warren miller stuff with jonny mosely and JP auclair doing grabs and shit of aerial jumps at the nissan freeride open I think its called. those were the first new school sections I saw
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Oct 15 2003 11:44PM
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mo-rod
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oh ye the movie was either freeriders, snowriders, or snowriders 2 I forget which
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Oct 15 2003 11:45PM
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Cascade_Jibber
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the freeskisquaw guy is right. air carving was the first. it was the movie that hooked the NCAF up with salomon and got the 1080 made


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Oct 15 2003 11:51PM
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'skiings last stand' has to be in there somewhere, JP and shane and JF i think... and others... its old, and good.
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Oct 15 2003 11:52PM
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Hedekar
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'Sick Sense' is one of the older ones out there too.






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Oct 15 2003 11:55PM
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snowflake
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There was a teneighty promo video that came out back in the day with the first 100 pairs of 1080's ever sold (my bro was lucky enough to get a a pair of those skis) Thats a pretty old video I think it came out the year before Degenerates.


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Oct 16 2003 12:00AM
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Nine_Milla_Killa
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The first I saw of anyone grabbing their skis was in 2001!!! How bad is that?
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Oct 16 2003 12:03AM
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sim
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NO no air carve was not. How many 1080s do you see in State of Mind. hmmm none so if they made a promp for the 1080s before state of mind, youd think you might just see someone using them in state of mind. Hmmmmm which one came first? What you do see in state of mind is vinnie D on the first NEW twintip made by Rossi.


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Oct 16 2003 12:05AM
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Jib_This
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what's that about a state of mind/13/the game DVD boxset???




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Oct 16 2003 2:22AM
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rodeo7
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Wasn't there some stuff with old school Seth morrison? Isn't it becuase he injured himself just when the first movies were coming out? so that would be 93 94 ish?
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Jammu
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free radicals is damn old movie... and here you can find some old clips :D http://www.iisko.cjb.net/ aaaaait
Oct 16 2003 9:38AM
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state of mind made pbp popular



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Oct 16 2003 9:46AM
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Big-Punisher
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man, it`s so much older than any of you youngsters could ever imagine. I happen to have in my possession the first ever freeze and the first ever freeskier, if anybody is interested in making a purchase or trading with me. By the way, it was definitely state of mind which came first. The super show by Mikey Hilb came out the same year as Degenerates. A little story, my roomate in whistler that summer had some punk friend who was in degenerates. We used to make fun of him cause he was tiny and kind of shy, and dressed like a total surfer beach bum. This punk was... tanner hall!!! This was before he blew up and became a total wigger.

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Oct 16 2003 10:31AM
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Straightline
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First grab I saw was Glenn Plake doing a rocket air in SNO What...bad ass flick,circa 1990

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Oct 16 2003 11:32AM
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123ski
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I liked Degenerates but 13 is still one of my favorites
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Oct 16 2003 11:39AM
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and how come all of you forgot about the game when you were listing newschool movies, the game is one of the better movies made
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Oct 16 2003 11:40AM
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undercarriage
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the same year degenerates came out there was a movie called skiings last stand by mikeyhilb. That was a great one too.
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Oct 16 2003 12:17PM
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Pipe_Munky
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wouldn't the first newschool vids be the original snowlerblader vids? go ahead and rip on me for this but in the grand scheme of things, long sticks evolved from short sticks!




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Oct 16 2003 12:23PM
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mckeeman
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actually sim i fyou think you know it all...air carving WAS the first 'newschool' flick and it was the demo that was sent to Salomon Japan. There also was another version of in for north america that was about 12 minutes long and was filmed by Johnny D, before he made degenerates and 13. Mikey Hilb was also the next to make skiings last stand, and if i remember carefully, there were 1080's in it, and they had the straight tail. Then there was supershow and White Salmon Productions was done with. 3 years ago i ran into Hilb in Maui and he said he was working on a full lenght feature film...but that didnt go through. My first pair of twin tips i made after seeing the boys film air carving on the glacier in 1996 or 97...i cant remember anyomre im too old...i went home and boiled the tails and bent them under my door...
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Oct 16 2003 12:28PM
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mckeeman
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actually sim i fyou think you know it all...air carving WAS the first 'newschool' flick and it was the demo that was sent to Salomon Japan. There also was another version of in for north america that was about 12 minutes long and was filmed by Johnny D, before he made degenerates and 13. Mikey Hilb was also the next to make skiings last stand, and if i remember carefully, there were 1080's in it, and they had the straight tail. Then there was supershow and White Salmon Productions was done with. 3 years ago i ran into Hilb in Maui and he said he was working on a full lenght feature film...but that didnt go through. My first pair of twin tips i made after seeing the boys film air carving on the glacier in 1996 or 97...i cant remember anyomre im too old...i went home and boiled the tails and bent them under my door...
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Oct 16 2003 12:31PM
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super show was pretty old...
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Oct 16 2003 1:49PM
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mo-rod
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the story about tanner was dumb and seems fake. I still maintain the old status of those warren miller ski movies.
short skiis did not start the twintips concept!
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Oct 16 2003 9:24PM
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Shane_McWannabe
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Sick Sense, Degenerates, Uprising and Skiings Last Stand all came out the same year. The year before was Pura Vida, State of Mind and Harvest.
Oct 16 2003 9:35PM
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hanklambo
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degenerates was the first one of the type yur thinking of
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Oct 16 2003 9:39PM
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Cascade_Jibber
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sick sense and degenerates had such sick soundtracks...the rap in the credits of sick sense is the best ever (im pretty sure it was sick sense)


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Oct 17 2003 12:44AM
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what was thrown down in air carving

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Oct 17 2003 1:11AM
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sim
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you know what you could be right. they might have made a promo and sent it to Salomon Japan before Degenerates came out, but you see I was talking about State of Mind soooo...


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Oct 17 2003 1:50AM
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Oct 17 2003 1:05PM
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Maximumsushi
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Well, in 'State of Mind' no one is using 1080s. Air carving was released around that time, maybe during the season which 'State of Mind' was filmed. Or shortly after.
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