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to the original question....saga xl will be bigger than oakley no matter what. i just got my new xl saga pants and i am gonna send them back and trade them for large, and im 6'2". They are like 6 inches too big in the waist and like 8 inches past my feet. I mean, i like baggy but they are almost annoying they are so huge. So dont get xl unless you are like, bigger than me or love ridiculously massive pants.