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K2 SETH / SCRATCH BC / 4FRNT MSP / Scott Punisher

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sharkilla
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Hey,

I live east coast, and mostly ski Vermont... so we get some crappy conditions. I ride park / mountain about 50% but have recently given up rails. I still like to go big on jumps, mostly throwing 360+grabs to 540+grabs. However, I ski Colorado twice a year and love powder. I'm looking for a ski that i can take to the big mountain powder. I go out west about twice a years so i would like a wider ski. Some suggestions have been above. Can anyone narrow these or offer some suggestions???

Feb 25 2008 1:58PM
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Triple_Strum
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It really depends on preference.  I have never tried the scott punisher, but I will rate the other three for you and hopefully that will help.

Flex from Stiffest to softest:  MSP - 8, BCs - 7, Seths - 5 or 6

Fattest to skinniest - Seth (but only at the tip and tails), BCs, MSPs

Sidecut from shortest turns to longest turns: BCs, Seths, MSPs

Hardpack performance (IMO) - BCs, Seths, MSP (that that is only because i prefer a shorter turn)

Durability from best to worst: BCs, MSPs, Seths



When I have been in your shoes in the past I have most loved the Scratch BCs, or brigades or S3 or whatever they will be called.  They perform really well all around, still have good energy for a stiff ski, and hold up really well on the topsheet with semi-cap construction and are pretty durable on rails. 


Best of luck!

Feb 25 2008 2:12PM
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sharkilla
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great....  that really helps. I have actually been leaning more towards the Scratch Brigades.

Thanks

Feb 25 2008 2:14PM
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yeahitsdave
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one of the best overall comparisons of those three skis i've seen.

being that, i love my bc's.
Feb 25 2008 2:22PM
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sharkilla
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Hello,
I've taken your suggestions in getting the Scratch Brigade, and the new graphics look sick!
Now I's 6'2 and I weigh 185, should i get the 178 skis or the 185 skis?
Feb 25 2008 7:26PM
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josh.
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185 your a tall lad so i think it well be about just as tall as you
Feb 25 2008 7:35PM
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.John.
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I just got a pair of BC's before this season, and i'm absolutely in love. I ski vermont every weekend, an they've handled great this season. I went to alta this winter and they handled like a dream in waist deep snow.
Feb 25 2008 8:17PM
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cobra_commander
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If you ski the east most of the time I might get something a little narrower. I have the Dynastar Big troubles and love them to death. They are a great park ski, but at the same time can float well in soft snow and are absolutely amazing crud busters. I highly recommend them.
Feb 25 2008 8:26PM
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ski_DC
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Amen. Bc's slay everywhere. i've skied pow and some big mtn at jackson and the canyons, ripped around sugarloaf, and hit up the parks in 7 springs and liberty in PA and they are solid everywere. much better hardpack performance than the seths and light as anything. get them, you wont regret it.
Feb 25 2008 8:27PM
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sharkilla
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Ok, so here's where I'm at. I'm locked into the scratch Brigades, cause I really want to get out west and ski big mountain as much as i can. I'm gonna get the 185's and I am also going to get the 08 scratch 120 binding with the wide brake. Final question is where to mount the bindings? My buddy suggested 3cm back from center, but i was thinking a little further back.

Feb 25 2008 8:54PM
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ski_DC
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mine are between modern and standard, because the shop messed them up and i didnt want to change it. I originally wanted them at +2 from modern, which i think would be good for everything. but i dont really notice how much father back mine are monted, they are fine switch and slay powder like crazy. so i would mount them maybe +3 from modern, but no more if youre going to ski pow. you mihgt even want them at like +1

Feb 25 2008 8:59PM
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coolhandluke
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ive got seth's (-3 mount) and scratch's (-1 mount) and am about your size.  i'd concur with getting the scratch's even though i ride my seth's more (in washington state).  plus the scratch's are wider but shorter now than my halloween colored ones. 

and buy 'em quick on backcountry.com for $420 and use the money you just saved to demo some rockered skis when you're in colorado
Feb 25 2008 9:05PM
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beermuscles
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i just ski maden's on the east :)
Feb 25 2008 9:08PM
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sharkilla
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I just got them from backcountry, 420 shipped!!! Thanks for website suggestion.


Feb 25 2008 9:36PM
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yeahitsdave
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good choice. i have mine mounted 4 cm ahead of modern. straight sex
Feb 26 2008 11:47AM
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miroz
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Id say good call, on ski choice, length, and price.  I ski the BCs mostly on the east coast and I love them.  They seem like the perfect ski for you.  Im 5'10 175 and I ski the 185 as well, and I like the way they ski.  They're not too long at all, and I can maneuver fine in tight trees.  You found a great deal dude, props, and enjoy them
Feb 26 2008 1:32PM
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