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Digital camcorders good for making ski films

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Arty
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Can anyone on here give me some advice as to which digital camcorders would be good for capturing action on the slopes for the possible creation of a ski movie? Camera needs to be mac compatible.
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Sep 29 2003 8:57AM
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Skier10322
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its just gotta be miniDV
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Sep 29 2003 9:00AM
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Arty
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What Brand dude?
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Sep 29 2003 9:28AM
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johnwiechecki
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I'd go either Sony or Canon.
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Sep 29 2003 2:47PM
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D-40
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i think that sony's are real nice
Sep 29 2003 2:48PM
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Matty.
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i think that canons are the best, they seem to have better quality

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Sep 29 2003 5:20PM
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Girays_Brother
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sony vx2000 or the cannon gl2

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Sep 29 2003 5:20PM
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mammothpunks
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canon has better lenses and color, sony has more gizmos and features

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Sep 29 2003 6:01PM
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Ice-Is-Scary
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Ok I'll let you in on a little secret. I bought a sonyTRV250 Hifi-8 from walmart last year. I used it for 2 and half months. I copied all the footage over to my computer and to a VHS tape. Then I returned the Camera for a full refund of 420$. Wal-mart has a 90 no-hassle return policy. If you have reciet and everything that came with the camera you can just rent it for the winter and return it in the spring or rebuy it whichever like. Don't feel bad about it either Wal-mart has put many a business out of business.


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Sep 29 2003 7:47PM
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telestar6
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Buy it on bhphototvideo.com. You will get the best price. And yeah sony or canon.
Sep 29 2003 8:15PM
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mammothpunks
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dont get a hi8 camera - get minidv. its pointless to get anything but a minidv cam

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Sep 29 2003 8:43PM
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LC.
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If you knew that you were going to return the camera, why didn't you get a good one?

Get a used VX1000 or GL1 whoever started the thread.
Sep 29 2003 8:45PM
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freeskiing04
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ouch...yeah get sony miniDV...they are great with iMovie.

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Sep 29 2003 9:56PM
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switchskier88
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I'd go minidv but im stuck with my hi-8 it'll work but if your not stuck with car payments or whatever like me go for the mini dv
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Sep 29 2003 11:24PM
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What is the difference beetween the two?And is there any reason not to do what the guy above said to do? that sounds sweet...

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Sep 29 2003 11:30PM
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mammothpunks
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minidv is like twice the resolution. if you want to use the camera for anything besides showing grandma your railslide, get minidv

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Sep 29 2003 11:37PM
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the-east-isnt-that-bad
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What about grandPA?


I'd get minidv or microdv or whatever because you get a mush better picture and also a much much much smaller package as a whole. As in a really small camera that has awesome quality...


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Sep 30 2003 12:01AM
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Newskoolkavana
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im goin with a canon optura 20, it should be good........ oh yeah and all the gizmos and gadgets that sonys come with arent really necessary (like fade in/ out of the shot) because you can do that stuff when editing the shot




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Sep 30 2003 12:06AM
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That's the spirit!


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Sep 30 2003 12:08AM
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johnwiechecki
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Don't be fooled by camera size either. You might think that you want a really small one, but unless you are using a tripod, it can be hard to keep a little one still.
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Sep 30 2003 12:36AM
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the-east-isnt-that-bad
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not if you are skiing with it tho...

i think that's what he means, right?


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Sep 30 2003 1:24AM
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SteveXs2
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Save your money for accessories, you're going to need a wide-angle converter if you want to do those under the jump style shots unless the subject is gonna be like 30 feet high. Also look for good image stabilization as this is super-important for skiing while filming.

Manual controls are important too, you'll want one where you can set your own exposure or if you're doing it in auto mode your camera's gonna blink because of the huge difference between the snow and the sky.


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Sep 30 2003 1:30AM
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Caveman.
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check out www.tetongravity.com/sony.html
when teton gravity research isnt using 16mm film they use sony products, that page tells why. In my opinion tgr is one of the best film companies there is






























































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Sep 30 2003 2:02AM
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Arty
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Hey'all, thanks to all for your help so far, it's much appreciated. Starting to get a good idea of what I should go for. As I'll be editing the footage later I suppose it'll probably better to go for a cam with better quality picture such as the canon. Keep puttin up replies though, the more there are, the more helpful it is i suppose. If I get one though, I'll let y'all know cos I'll be in Aspen round X games time, so if anyone wants to be filmed, you may be able to become part of one of Australia's first ever newschool flicks.
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Sep 30 2003 2:12AM
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DRISKEY
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what are some average digicams? this thread is perfect cuz i was thinkin about getting one for this upcoming season too. are all those cameras like top of the line?
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Sep 30 2003 2:24AM
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Itsbackfliptime
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the lady at the store said that Digital 8 and MiniDV had 520 lines of resolution. I guess I got screwed.

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PhaedeD
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sony and canon are where its at. minidv is what you want











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Sep 30 2003 3:28AM
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skiwolff15
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panasonic dvx100, there is nothing better
Sep 30 2003 3:52AM
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marlin_102
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is JVC any good? i can get decent deals on em but i dont want to put my money into anyting thats not worth it.


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Irotate360
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if ur goin with jvc get the service plan because after two years of constant use on my old minidv cam it broke and it cost 400 to fix so i said screeww it and i got a sony



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Sep 30 2003 4:07AM
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SteveXs2
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skiwolf15, if that's not a 3CCD cam then it's most likely shat. Panasonic has the worste color reproduction I've ever seen.


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Sep 30 2003 4:36AM
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Dfresh
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get sony mini dv, dont' get the small ass ones thouhg, look for the older models before the current ones, and get one of those or a higher end sony mini dv for current models

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Sep 30 2003 4:51AM
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ninemillakilla
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i would get digital 8, thats what ive got and i dont have one complaint, def. dont get 8 mill its goin out man.
good idea to the wal mart guy, im probably going to have to do that myself
Sep 30 2003 6:41AM
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TKMB
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steve, it is a 3 chip cam. and its pretty damn good to.

if your just looking to film some stuff, dont go all out on a gl2 or vx2000. just look around on ebay for a basic minidv camera. i would suggest sony, i have a trv27 and it works out pretty good. i wouldnt buy a canon unless its a gl1/2 or better.

save money for a wide angle as well.

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Sep 30 2003 3:43PM
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LC.
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Yeah Steve - that Panasonic is supposedly awesome - word has it that it will replace VX's as the standard in skateboard videos.

And Stu, if you can get a 3CCD as your first camera, why not go for it? I got a GL1 as my first camera because I knew that if I got a cheap 1-chip I'd want to upgrade in a few months. I found a good deal and I went for it. I know a bit about still photography, so the settings were easy to get used to, but even for a beginner there is full automatic mode, so you might as well get sopmething decent if you have the cash.
Sep 30 2003 5:49PM
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Ice-Is-Scary
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Yeah ive prolly gonna do it to walmart again this winter but. this time ill get a lil better one if I can spare not having the cash for a few months


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Sep 30 2003 7:53PM
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bailer
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anyone got any ideas for a camera thats about 700 or less canadian.. I was looking at the canon zr45mc
Oct 7 2003 8:32PM
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ryankirkphoto
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gl2 is the way to go..i have one and the possibilites are enless on it

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mine is water dammaged to shit so don't put whatever you get in water
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Oct 7 2003 9:12PM
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gl 2 hands down
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SteveXs2
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F-scratch-S, Canon's are great, if it's cheap, buy it, then buy a Wide-angle converter. You won't regret getting the converter, you'll most likely need it anyways.


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Oct 7 2003 9:35PM
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Justo8484
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yeah definately make sure you have enough money for a wideangle lense or a fisheye lense, i got a wideangle, but i am tryin to find a decent priced fisheye now
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Oct 7 2003 9:56PM
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Jibtech
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Hi-Def

Thats the shit George Lucas shot the new Star Wars flicks on..... its DIGITAL, no film. hope you got a spare 63g's laying around.
Oct 7 2003 10:19PM
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ConceptPro153
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yeah if u are gonna get a camera and get some accessories then buy A new one it is hard to find accessories for old cameras. Canons are good camcorders but not the durability that sony has for the mountian...go with sony
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Oct 7 2003 10:21PM
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johnwiechecki
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Justo, I don't know if you have one near you, but I just went to Best Buy and paid $40 for a 0.43x fisheye and it works real good. It's made by Cokin and fits 37mm threads.
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Oct 8 2003 9:51AM
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Justo8484
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thanks, i'm at college right now, but i am headin home this week, so i will have to check that out
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Oct 8 2003 10:30AM
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switchskier88
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does digital 8 really transfer that badly onto a comp, i really dont wanna buy a new camera but if i have to i probably will
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Oct 8 2003 3:11PM
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2TrackProductions
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Avoid JVC at all costs almost al their video products (except professional shoulder cams and such) are shit.

Sony is the way to go, we shoot with VX-2000 and PD-150s and they really work well in harsh conditions... Battery life is way longer than on Canons, i can shoot a whole day at minus fucken freezing with my screen open and i still have some juice left at night...

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Oct 8 2003 6:08PM
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mammothpunks
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i dont have any problems with batteries on my gl1. i got one of those huge ass ones and it lasts a couple days no problem

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Oct 8 2003 6:28PM
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http://reviews.cnet.com/4505-6500_7-20548660-3.html?legacy=cnet&tag=txt

http://reviews.cnet.com/4505-6500_7-20548660.html?tag=more

Read those, that Panasonic dvx 100 seems pretty rad.




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