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yeah i saw them at a shop when i was buying some new trucks for my skateboard since they are mostly a snowboard shop and naturally they would carry lib tech skis if they had any at all. BUt they looked pretty good, definetly a total park ski, the side cut was cool too, kinda jaggedy. They had a lot of flex too and i would of bought them but i didn't have the balls to go into unchartered territory. Go for it though cause they looked like pretty sick skis. i