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Level of Ski Superpipe vs. Boarding

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3ski6guy0
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After watching sean white go and get a 93 in pipe it amazes me and makes me think that skiing is at a higher level than boarding is. If any of the skiers straight aired the first hit they wouldnt even be in the running for a medal but somehow sean pulls out first with a shitty straight air, and beats out people who boosted higher than him. anyone think he does better with the judges cause he is sean white after all?
Jan 27 2008 10:25PM
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televback1
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they boost like 7-10 feet compared to over 20
Jan 27 2008 10:28PM
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paulbunyan
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this jap guy that qulifyed 1st in front of shaun whos is 16 and not even pro is amazing thou!. besides that its awsome how skiing they boost and spin alot more and just look better over all. the funny thing is theres like a million more snowboarders
Jan 27 2008 10:32PM
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quebecfreestyler
Posts: 13040 - Karma: 1,418
i like watching snowboard half pipe more even tho they dont go as big.  skiers are just able to carry more speed, that's it.
 boarders get way techier.
Jan 27 2008 10:34PM
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TheButterHashira
Posts: 9691 - Karma: 1,702
Yeah the way skiing is it is just naturally easier to go fast.
But I don't like how it seems like all they do is spin in snowboarding. not enough inverts to me at least
Jan 27 2008 10:36PM
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cousinmark
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straight airs are the shit
Jan 27 2008 10:42PM
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quebecfreestyler
Posts: 13040 - Karma: 1,418
they do inverted spins too


that karubo dude just layed a sick run.

my favorite so bad even if judges dont agree
Jan 27 2008 10:44PM
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ski_ENDUB
Posts: 2535 - Karma: 86
It's more frustrating to watch the snowboard superpipe because the judges are more on shawn whites dick that any other athlete. props to shawn his run is sick. but his first hit is a straight air and he shouldn't be like 5 points above everyone else.
Jan 27 2008 10:46PM
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colin13
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i think they HAVE to do one trick thats 180 or less as a throwback to its surfing roots. and its true, they dont go as big but they get way more tech (back to back 10s)
Jan 27 2008 10:48PM
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Sharko
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If I'm not mistaken, it is a difference in the way snowboarding is scored:
In boarding (but not skiing) you are REQUIRED to do 2 non-tech tricks. I can't remember what your options are, but things like 180 grabs or air-to-fakie are fair game. It is something about maintaining emphasis on style, and that is why all the boarders do a couple hits that aren't huge tech tricks. Someone who knows more than me please explain it fully.
Jan 27 2008 10:51PM
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TylerS
Posts: 2720 - Karma: 49
Shawn White 96.66 you amaze me. his shit is so smooth
Jan 27 2008 11:02PM
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SkiingRocks89
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if thats true, that is sick, i wish skiers were forced to to some sick stylie tricks, like styled out 5's and shit like that
Jan 27 2008 11:04PM
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JaphyRyder
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yea its a big deal when they throw a 10 in the pipe, but many skiers throw down 12s with solid grabs in the middle of their runs, all while boosting 8+ feet higher. were pretty much dope
Jan 27 2008 11:05PM
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TylerS
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For example: Danny Kass's third run, last hit he did a nice, smooth Tailgrab to fakie. It looked way better than a hucked 1260 at the bottom imo
Jan 27 2008 11:06PM
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OwenL
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but then danny also hucked at the start where as shawn didnt...
Jan 27 2008 11:13PM
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Hobo_De_Esquiar
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I think that Sal Masekala creamed his pants when Shawn did the 12
Jan 27 2008 11:16PM
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dangerdad
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agreed
Jan 27 2008 11:17PM
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Bepo
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I hate when snowboarders boost like 5 feet and huck a 10.  it's not even a 1080, it's a 900 with a revert at the end.  So gay when they do that.  That jap guy, Aono I think it was, was so sick tho.  He was going huge and his 10's at the last hit were amazing.  Way cooler to watch than shaun
Jan 27 2008 11:19PM
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jensen
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i believe that is only for USSA competitions such as the olympics.
Jan 27 2008 11:22PM
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Sharko
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Don't think so, because I learned this from the announcers during last year's x-games. I think anyway, I'm looking into it right now.
Jan 27 2008 11:36PM
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LPT_311
Posts: 2239 - Karma: 12
White Killed it. Rodeo 7, two 900s, two 1080s, and a 1260??? jesuuuss
Jan 27 2008 11:39PM
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paulbunyan
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i still think hes over rated and cocky
Jan 27 2008 11:40PM
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spwrozek
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A slow smooth ally-oop seven is not what I would consider hucked. Danny has one of the best styles in the pipe for sure.
Jan 27 2008 11:53PM
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BravoWhiskey5280
Posts: 4020 - Karma: 520
did you see how smooth shauns 1080 tail was though...it seemed to make him spin faster...he like double grabed it to
Jan 28 2008 12:01AM
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JumboBum
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Sal Masta-beta? He definitely LOVEs Shaun White with a passion. He has so many nicknames for Shaun White... I really liked both Japanese guys. Such compact and smooth style... the other Japanese guy that didn't podium had a really smooth run.
Jan 28 2008 12:02AM
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quebecfreestyler
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first off, they do back to back 1080, wich is dope.
Secondly, I havent seen any skier grab a 1260 at x-games this year, i know hayward was doing them with tial grabs at wssi but not at x.
Thirdly, most skiers dont get a solid grab in their 1080, the only one that does get a slod grab is riddle.

Finally, snowboarding is different then skiing and if I rememeber correctly shawn white grabbed all of his tricks and wen over 10 feet on his first 4 hits. Ainti that bad for someone hicking himself  under 8 feet.
Jan 28 2008 8:54AM
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*DrewT*
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it's somewhat sadening to me to see so many missed/tickled grabs in skier superpipe
Jan 28 2008 11:34AM
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Mr.O
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good points but i think what he is trying to say is that the combo of a 1260 and the amplitude and a partial grab (not a solid grab because i didnt see one a 12 either) is more technical then back to back 1080's
Jan 28 2008 11:40AM
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Maximumsushi
Posts: 7837 - Karma: 3,347
I for one believe that skiing pipe is on a different level from boarding pipe. I'm usually all over snowboarding's nuts but I feel that skiers absolutely kill boarders in the pipe. They go bigger and have far more tricks per run.
Jan 28 2008 11:43AM
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TotesMcgotes
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Shit are you a snowboarder now or what? ha.   I mean I get your point and everything.  Snowboarders are more tech in the pipe but there are a lot of unique things about ski pipe that make it sicker in my opinion- They go waaay bigger on everything, you can actually tell when they're going switch, a lot more variety and techiness in grabs, ect.    I do see where you're coming from though.
Jan 28 2008 12:24PM
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Billy_B
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i think skiing is better becuse a lot snow boarders fell and skiers are going way higher.
Jan 28 2008 1:05PM
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dozerr
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i guess touching your grabs for a split second or not grabbing at all can be considered "way techier"  and i would have to say that snowboarders were boosting bigger than skiers last hits
Jan 28 2008 1:09PM
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quebecfreestyler
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well this year was the first time I enjoyed skier pipe as much as snowboarder.

 snowboarder changetheyr grabs too, it's just hard to figure it out if you are not familliar with them.

 I agree a good bunch of snowboarder went for the ballarina style but you gotta  realise that a whole bunch of skiers didnt grab either and spun a lot too.

I see everyone complaining about how snowboarder spin too much and I cant beleive you guyz didnt realise that most skiers  go around 5 feet out on their bottom hit corked 1080 with no grabs.


I have to say that tanner run was still my favorite run from both skiers and snowboarder. I just dont think it's right to say skiers are kicking snowboarders ass in the pipe cause they arent. they are doing stuff differently causeit's a different sport.

Maybe it's just the way snowboarder can spin frontside and backside to do differnet tricks in their run that make me like it a bit more.
Jan 28 2008 2:34PM
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hawaiiansteeze
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didnt tanner throw tails with his 12?

Jan 28 2008 2:40PM
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Alex_G
Posts: 11902 - Karma: 1,018
go out there and do something about it...if anybody can its you. seriously. is it possible for you to join bigger pipe competitions?
Jan 28 2008 3:02PM
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dan4060
Posts: 1458 - Karma: 847
Yes, it is easier to go fast on skis, the same way it is easier to spin on a board.
Jan 28 2008 4:04PM
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skiEER
Posts: 4089 - Karma: 79
skiers just look way better to me in pipe
Jan 28 2008 4:08PM
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quebecfreestyler
Posts: 13040 - Karma: 1,418
i havent seen anyone complete a 1800 on a snowbaod but i've seen a skier done it .
It's esaier to spin fast on skis, it's just harder to land a big spin in the pipe on skis
Jan 28 2008 4:12PM
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