Prophet or MSP??

My friend got the prophet 90's. They seemed like a pretty solid ski.

prophets would be a good choice..love to charge

i skied the msp last year. they are really fun. good all-around ski. pretty stiff. i skied them all over the mountain, including a small amount of park. i found i actually prefer a slightly softer ski, but the msps rip. dont know about the prophet

Think about the prophet 100. The ski rips so hard. For its width/size its pretty light and still can rip groomers no question.  Ive skied both the 90 and 100. 90 is solid but 100 makes you feel like you can dominate the mtn. Its powerfull.

i forgot to mention that i ski the east, so im thinking 100 to be a little more than i need^^ thanks though

The MSP is a damn stiff ski tip to tail.  The ski flex graph shows the prophet is stiffer underfoot but softer in the tip and tail, while the msp is just allround stiff.  I just skiied the MSP in Telluride and it ripped everything pretty hard, and was super stable at high speeds or in crud.  Overall I'd want a softer ski for park but its sick for charging and carving.

does any one know which ski is lighter off hand? is the MSP better suited for switch riding? i know in the past the prophets have a been a more directional ski but which one handles switch riding/landings better?

My thoughts from last spring:

1) *4FRNT MSP – 181 cm – mounted at midsole:  This is a great one-ski quiver ski.  Holds an edge really well.  Loves to go fast and do big turns.  Only downside is that it isn’t as versatile in turn shape as other skis (Magfire 12 and other mid-fats).  This was one of my favorites of the day.

Graphics:  Some of the best I’ve ever seen.

Final Thoughts:  I really, really like this ski.  I could see it replacing my Monster 82s.  It kills it all mountain and should be quite good in the park.  It is really stable and strong going really fast.

Price: $ high

2) Rossignol Brigade (Scratch BC) – 185 cm – mounted about Modern:  One of the most improved skis from last year.  They have stiffened it up quite a bit.  The ski holds an edge really well and carves the hard pack really well.  It also skis switch fantastically.  I really like the ski as an out West all mountain do-it-all.  The ski feels like a slightly toned down MSP.

Graphics:  Nothing special, simple and clean

Final Thoughts:  I would rather ski the Brigade than the Bridge.  It is a great all-mountain ski.  Not sure if it will sell here in MN.

Price: $ high

3) Line Prophet 90 – 179 cm – midsole mount:  This ski is an all-mountain ski.  It skis similar to the MSP, but not quite on that level.  It carves well and holds an edge quite well.  Likes bigger turns and fairly high speed. 

Graphics:  All of the Prophets together look cool, but by themselves = meh.

Final Thoughts:  Better than expected all-mountain/powder ski.  It comes close to the MSP, but I would still rather be on the MSP.

Price: $ ??

MSP's rip. they're nice and stiff for charging. They are fine going switch. I've never taken them into a park, but I've done some switch landings and switch skiing, they're fine. They are deffenatly for charging hard.

thanks guys, does anyone know if there is a difference in durability? even for just 4frnt and Line in general?

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any more input/advice?

I have 186cm Prophet 90 and I really like them. It's a true east coast all-mountain ski. Carve nicely, stiff, there's no limit on this ski. Can't comment on the MSP, but my Line Prophet are holding up real good. They are nice and fun skis. Highly recommended.

cant speak for line, but my msps have had probably 70 days of fairly hard riding on them, and they are still holding up great. they got one core shot, but thats because my mountaIn is made of millioins of jagged rocks.

I have msps and i looove em, theyr a great east coast ski.

I would buy my big troubles if I were you. Better ski then any of the options and you won't break the bank.

they are in solid condition. Check my threads

I haven't skied the Prophets but I do own MSP's and here are my thoughts:

- They absolutely rule all mtn, from ice to pow. I've skied them on ice-rink boilerplate after freezing rain at Whistler as well as a few feet of crud and they're awesome at both. Ice performance really impressed me actually, on any other twin I would have been in misery.

- The ski is very stiff all over. I love stiff skis so this wasn't a problem for me BUT they are less playful than a softer ski. I didn't feel like going and jumping around on them, more just charging, skiing fast. Because of this they can be tiring to ski until your legs get used to them, then they're awesome.

- They're soooo stable in the air and generally on the snow. I've landed on one leg off balance a few times and the stability of the ski has saved me. They just won't tip over, and they won't hook when you don't want to.

- The ski has a bigger turning radius than most 'park skis', meaning that they carve GS-style turns, and they also hold an amazing edge. HOWEVER, after a week on these skis I found (once I'd found the sweetspot of the sidecut) I could also carve small turns, and flick them edge to edge really quick.

- The ski has a lot of still tail so you don't want to get backseat on them going quick edge to edge or they'll kick your arse. Once this has happened you'll never do it again.

To sum up: I fucking love these skis. I've skied a whole lot of twins in my time (PE's, Seths, Karmas, Ar5's, Elizabeths) and these are by far my favorite skis for all-around ripping. It'll take you about a week of solid skiing to really feel you are commanding the ski, then it'll do whatever you want and you'll love them. All this talk is making me want to ski them now!

A final word of warning - I've skied the MSP at centre mount and they were SHIT. Very skittish and didn't want to initiate a turn. I recommend mounting them 2cm back from Freeride for all-over performance. That seems to be the sweet spot of the ski, and it'll be better for all mtn/pow while still being decent for park (the ski has a fuckload of tail, trust me).

Also, I have found the ski to be very durable, especially compared to the only Line ski I've owned (Elizabeth), which seemed poor quality. The MSP is pretty bombproof, and very light also.

Once again, if you're not using these for much park please take my advice on the mounting point and don't go centre, but between 1-2cm back from freeride. Trust me, you'll love it ;-)

my msp's have served me well.  they are almost retired but like everyone else says they handle pretty much anything very well.  i wouldn't recommend them as a jib ski, but for large kickers they are absolutely what you want to be on.  stable overall and great everywhere on the mountain. 

The 90 is a good ski, but really, just get the 100s. There's just no comparison. Arguably an even better ski than the Seth.