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Skateboard filming vs Ski filming

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lrichardson.
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Wow, first i have to say how amazing the skating and filming is in Fully Flared. Ty evans is amazing. Then i got thinking when will skiing even come close to the filming and ideas ty has. Every angle he used was full of originality and freshness. I hope a production company this year comes out and really blows us away, that would be lovely.
Dec 20 2007 5:32PM
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GatoGordo
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cool story hansel
Dec 20 2007 5:34PM
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five0
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having no idea who your talking about, even i can see the obvious limitations you have when filming skateboarding as opposed to skiing
Dec 20 2007 5:45PM
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snowboardersrule
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you clearly havent seen enough ty evans movie. they're all the same. skate filming is pretty different from skiing and riding filming. most of skate filming is downright awful
Dec 20 2007 6:42PM
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skisebski
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skateboard photography is ahead of skiing photography.
Dec 20 2007 6:51PM
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1111111111111111
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thats cause of the lense opportunities. like fish eyes look better/are more distorted the closer you are, and its much easier to do that in skating
Dec 20 2007 6:56PM
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fatbastard
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I haven't seen the vid, but the two are way too different to even compare.  For one, you can shoot skating every day of the year it doesn't rain.  In a place like California, that means you can shoot 320+ days a year if you want to. Skiing?  You might get 30 good days.  Another thing is the difference in speeds makes it way easier to shoot skating, and then the smaller spaces of skating allow you to be more creative (ie Picture This pulled it off because when you unload a bunch of gear from your car and set it up right there at a rail or wallride, it's a hell of a lot easier than getting creative out on an open mountain). 

I could go on and on.  But as far as the fisheye shots, I for one get tired of fisheye shots over and over and over again in skate flicks.  It's about as exciting as someone standing on the knuckle of a table shooting the wildlife fly by and never making any effort to find a different angle. 
Dec 20 2007 7:30PM
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CHARLES.BRONSON
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you dumb skiers quit being so defensive and realize the kid has a point
Dec 20 2007 7:58PM
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lrichardson.
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thank you. im just trying to say that i appreciate skateboarding filming and what they are doing, i love fisheye shots and ski films have been the same 16 mill shots for so long. its hard to compare the two sports but i want to something different for a change. thats all my point, no hate
Dec 20 2007 8:22PM
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rossignol_rider
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i just had this conversation yesterday actually. a good friend of mine is a sickkkkkkkkk skate videographer and we used to film with him urryday. we took him out to a handrail (skiing) a couple days ago and he was boggled. the shit is so different
Dec 20 2007 8:49PM
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Nico_G
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ey post a vid of this guy you speak of and then Ill make my decision.
Dec 20 2007 8:55PM
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JaySkier107
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ski vids are way better.

I bet alot of people have said that... Maybe because this is a ski forum
Dec 20 2007 9:01PM
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Jeff_Lo
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there are tons of great skate movies...but even more not so great... like in any extreme sport even with skiing, each sport has a unique style, your used to watching ski movies, so yeah they begin to look the same, where as when i watch skate movies i feel like its the same shit over and over as well...ooh fisheye follow on a handrail....oh there is another...ooh a kick flip follow cam for about 3 mins....and another...ah sick a group of skaters fighting a security guard or cop....oh even sicker....some more skate follow cams. yeah its repetetive but it doesnt make it terrible. There is only so much one can innovate a praticular industry whether it be video games, films, sports, or anything else such as paper, while there will always be innovations, note the amount of time between them, because we are limited at certain points in technology.
Each sport has there own unique filming, with biking especially, cable cams and heli's above. but you dont really see alot of variation from that style. So no matter what after watching that vid for a praticular amnt of time, it'll be repetetive in your mind.
Dec 21 2007 2:44AM
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jibber170
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the reason why skate and snowboard movies are so damn sick is that every single shot is moving in some way there is maybe 2 or 3 stationary shots. thats what makes it so good it doesnt get boring it might be the same trick but the shot is different which makes it not boring. if you have seen "picture this"
you will understand
Dec 21 2007 10:07AM
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Jeff_Lo
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i agree with you a bit, but it sounds like your basing that off two to three movies, i've seen multiple mack dawg and absinthe films, and truthfully i see just as many tripod shots in those films....maybe not picture this, but dang man watch some ski films from this year....yeah dude, ssd, and realtime all had a good number of moving shots.
Dec 21 2007 10:22AM
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bob_dole
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maybe a thing that plays as a factor is just how the overall movie was put together. not editing as in how many AE shit you can put into it...but just the overal, undefineable thing. fuck...sorry is one of the most badass movies and its not really banger videography in it..its just cool because jonny fucking rotten hosts it! afterbang, again...there wasnt any INTENSE new filming techniques used in it...it was just cool becuase it was put together way differently than the normal deals. same with 91 words for snow, yeah they might have a few nice lile effects in there...but the overall thing for that was again how they put it together. tackle each aspect of a sport, get someone to talk about it (in a legit way and portray it in a legit way). can all yous digs that?...just my .02

Dec 21 2007 10:39AM
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smuggs
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no
Dec 21 2007 10:45AM
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Pirruccio
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they probly have more money funding there videos too

Dec 21 2007 10:49AM
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jason...
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what about mountain bike filiming? 400+ foot long cable cams and shit. and filming  skating in my opinion is way easier than filming skiing
Dec 21 2007 12:46PM
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ride-rider
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well skaters only have a few things to film, like rail, drop, bench, rail, drop, bench etc.  Where as for skiing and snowboarding the features are allways changing.  you may be filming the same cliff drop, but it may have more snow or you may be in low vis. conditions.   Where as for skating they master their angles and no exactly how to make it look good every time. 

but i still enjoy watching skiing and boarding videos better that skating.  I think skate vids get old.
Dec 21 2007 1:15PM
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Scolson
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All I ever see in skate videos is the close in fisheye followcam.  Which needs to stay out of skiing.
Dec 21 2007 8:09PM
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SteezePatrol
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its easier to get equiptment around on pavement
Dec 21 2007 9:04PM
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strongmark
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fully flared is the best video ever made.  the beginning blow-shit-up nonsense is proof enough.  and guy mariano's part is certainly one of the best video parts ever.  so is mj's.

ski videos have a lonnnnng ways to go before they anywhere near the level that skateboard videos are at.  snowboarding is starting to come close with some of the new techniques theyre coming up with, and the flatground type stuff thats starting to get popular.  ill be honest, i love the way that its starting to move.
Dec 21 2007 9:08PM
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strongmark
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0FqcTZYEwY

even the TRAILER is the best!
Dec 21 2007 9:37PM
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860
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<object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/azh_5QrAdBs&rel=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/azh_5QrAdBs&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>

I like these angles better
Dec 21 2007 9:50PM
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860
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And of course I mean this video....





Dec 21 2007 9:51PM
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strongmark
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shouldnt you be liking snowboard videos more, with your technine icon?
Dec 21 2007 10:14PM
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snowboardersrule
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picture this is pretty different from skate vids. i've never seen a skate vid like picture this.
Dec 21 2007 11:13PM
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snowboardersrule
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thats cuz atiba is a skate photographer and chris o'connell is ski photographer
Dec 21 2007 11:16PM
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lrichardson.
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=oT6O_S2sEQ4

here is ty evans amazing stuff
Dec 24 2007 7:31PM
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Boodje.
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skaters dont freeze there ass on mostly a daily basis now do they?
Dec 24 2007 7:49PM
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BK
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skating is the most fun to film and the most fun to edit.
Dec 24 2007 8:07PM
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Nasty_Napes
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Skate films are sooo ahead of any other sport's vids....it will be nice when skiing can live up to there reputation. and yes ty kills it for sure. CHOMP ON THIS!
Dec 24 2007 10:54PM
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solitaryman
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that was so gay all it was was a bunch of cameras on cranes and shit, it gets old after about 3 shots in a row
Dec 25 2007 1:14PM
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horner
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I'm just waiting for someone to step it up and film a whole ski flick with a varicam, xdcam, or the RED...
Dec 25 2007 4:40PM
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highflyer21
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Skate films definetly have some dope angles but the environment is so much smaller
Dec 25 2007 6:50PM
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scientist
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skaters also are usually filming in much more bearable comforatable conditions. Not in -25C
Dec 25 2007 10:47PM
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