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So I got my fks mounted and... problems.

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fnstoked
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So there's been many threads about mount fuckups and whatnot, so sorry for this additional one. When I got my skis back, I was happy to see the tech got the binding position right in relation to center after hearing many stories. I had a line drawn out and told the shop specific instructions to measure out -3 from true center if my measurements were off. They did that, and measured out a more correct line where they mounted my bindings, which was fine with me. Cool.

Now for the shit part. just a few minutes ago, I noticed that the bindings weren't at the middle of the skis.  What the fuck. The bindings are mounted more towards the left edge on both skis, so there is more width on the right side of the binding than the left. How does this fucking happen? I really don't want another mount in my skis, will it really matter/affect actual skiing? It's definitely noticeable just by eyeing it and not just slightly off. My skis are on their second mount, would there be a chance in some sort of reimbursement in the form of skis with the shop?

Also, I think there might be a problem with forward pressure on my binders right now cause when I butter around, one of my skis pops off. It's happened a few times and  it's always the same ski. I think it might be forward pressure and not DIN since it's only one ski. And besides it shouldn't take too much retention to keep me in when I'm stationary. Can anyone tell me how to check that on fks 120s?
Dec 14 2007 11:52PM
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KRAMPUSNTROLLZ
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i want to go to your shop

Dec 14 2007 11:57PM
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FUUUCK
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i have FKS 120s as well and the forward pressure wasnt set up properly on my skis either, you have to adujust the bar thingers that connect your heel piece to the turn table with a screw driver.

i dont know the spicific, just fiddle with it till you get it right.
Dec 15 2007 12:02AM
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fnstoked
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Yeah, I know how to adjust for different sizes. But I don't want to test forward pressure on the slopes. THat would be very bad going both ways, being too tight or too loose. Do you know if there are any indicators on the binding?
Dec 15 2007 12:08AM
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stingfire
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Hey I just got mine back from today and same problem:  the bindings are a bit to left as well.  I'm gonna try skiing them tomorrow to see if it affects it much.
Dec 15 2007 1:05AM
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dave44
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I swear there was someone else with a problem like yours... bindings to one side.

Go back to the shop and ask...

Maybe the uneven mounting affects the pressure applied to the binding... I dunno. Be sure to go back to the shop... some pics might help NS assess it too
Dec 15 2007 1:10AM
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Love_Wins.
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It shouldn't affect your skiing unless it's WAY off...a millimeter or two won't be an issue...but they might comp you the mount anyway.  It probably happened because the mounting jigs come with little rubber feet on the legs, and if they fall off on one side, it'll be a bit off, hard to explain, but if you're ever seen a jig you'll know what I mean.  As for checking the forward pressure...see my reply in the end all FKS thread.
Dec 15 2007 4:48AM
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Love_Wins.
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Oh, and since you said you know how to adjust the forward pressure I didn't go into it, but just make sure if you adjust it that the arms are EVEN...having the forward pressure arms at different lengths can make for a bad day.
Dec 15 2007 4:50AM
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ShadyHillGroup
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every pair of fks ive had is off to left, never noticed it skiing, shops also set my foward pressure really loose too. click the heel piece up so its engaged, tighten the foward pressure so it almost touches the back of your boot when it is disengaged, and that should solve the problem
Dec 15 2007 9:44AM
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fnstoked
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what do you do to make sure it's even, is it just  estimating? or actually count the numberof times you turn the screw, haha. (but maybe?)

Dec 15 2007 11:27AM
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fnstoked
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upon further inspection, the guy didn't even screw the screws all the way in.

there's about half a cm more ski on the right side of the binding than the left



it was definitely forward pressure, one ski is flush with the two dashes, the other doesn't reach 'em.

other questions, is the base plate adjustable or something, cause mine look different from one another. it looks like the heel piece is composed of two plates on top of one another. one of my bindings are lined up so the circular top overs the bottom, the other one has the top piece further back and the bottom piece is exposed a little.

there's a plastic cylinder type thing around one brake of each binding that I circled in white, what's that for?

and does anyone know what year these bindings are?

the picture is bad, i couldn't keep a steady hand and the battery died.
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Dec 15 2007 12:53PM
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Love_Wins.
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Measure would be best, from the bottom up and just make them even.
That little thing on the brake arms doesn't do anything...don't worry about it.
Dec 15 2007 2:04PM
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fnstoked
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i tried to adjust the length of the 2 heel arms, but the forward pressure tab does not change it's position at all. Does the tab directly relate to the actual forward pressure or is it just na indicator, meaning that it can be not flush with the two lines and the bindings still can have the correct forward pressure? not sure if that was explained well
Dec 16 2007 12:24PM
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freeski1620
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alright bro, i got all your answers.

the base plates are not adjustable, but they do move. they slide back when you step into to make forward pressure. the white tab is a direct indicator of forward pressure because it helps hole d the spring that creates the forward pressure in place. i don't believe you're adjusting the right thing if you have your boot in the binding and you're working on the arms, the way that binding works if you do something to those arms, things will change as far as forward pressure is concerned.

the black things on the brakes are to protect your sidewall.

your base plates are fine, one is just looser than the other, which could be your problem with the above mentioned forward pressure problem.

what did i not get there?
Dec 16 2007 12:35PM
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freezed
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Make sure you are checking the forward pressure with the boots in. If you're messing around with the screws, nothings going to change on the indicator thingy if the boots aren't in. And if you're already doing that, then I don't know what the deal is, because as he ^ said, you should see a change if you are changing the screws.
Dec 16 2007 12:44PM
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fnstoked
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how  do I fix the baseplates then so my forward pressure problem goes away? you said they're loose? how do i tighten them?

my boots were in when I checked the tabs.
Dec 16 2007 2:31PM
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fnstoked
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i'm bringing them to the shop today to ask/complain. i'll update what happens.
Dec 16 2007 3:29PM
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freeski1620
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there is nothing wrong with them.
they dont need to be fixed.

Dec 16 2007 4:21PM
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fnstoked
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^the tech definitely did something to change the base plates cause now the left and right bindings look the same, before they were different. the forward pressure is now fixed.

I just got back from the shop, they remounted my skis for free, refunded my other mount, and gave me $20 in credit. but the bindings are now at around 1.5 cm back from true center. i guess i'm satisfied, I didn't demand new skis though, maybe I should've but it didn't feel right since my skis were already used going into the shop.
Dec 16 2007 6:41PM
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fnstoked
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i got another question. my brakes don't come all the way down because of the sidewall (not wide enough). is it worth the potential spring(?) screwup to re-bend the brakes with my boots clicked in, dins cranked?
 or is there no/little risk in messing up the bindings by using that method?

I'd rather have my brakes the right width than not.t
Dec 21 2007 12:23AM
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CTD
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i dunno how familiar you are with the mechanicals of bindings, but i think tearing the binders apart and looking how they work really helps you understand all this stuff. they are real simple. as for the brakes, dont bother now that they are mounted, youll fuck um up if you try. you have to pull the whole turntable assembly apart. its pretty easy, but no reason to pull the binders off now they are mounted.
Dec 21 2007 12:49AM
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WeK
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I bent my FKS brakes after mounting since I really fucked them up skiing. Try it if you want, I bent mine a good 60* but it was parallel with the ski rather then a perpendicular bend to fit them around the sides. I used the loop end of a wrench
Dec 21 2007 12:54AM
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LC.
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Old thread, but just to let you know... I mounted my 155s today and evended up with then 1-2mm off centre on both skis, more on the heel than the toe. I makred them up before drilling and noticed it but figured fuck it I'm not going to notice it. It's because our FKS jig is the oldest we have and so has been dropped more and is a little bent. Still, I'm stoked on them.
Dec 21 2007 2:29PM
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invader7
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why? we have so many legit shops around here
Dec 21 2007 3:57PM
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fnstoked
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after a few days skiing, i found that my brakes don't deploy correctly most of the time. I don't want runaway skis so I'm gonna try bending the brakes with it mounted on the skis. hopefully all goes well.
Dec 25 2007 5:08PM
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skiwithchuck
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Before trying to bend your fks brakes, Id recommend taking off those little black plastic things stuck on the brake arms and see if your brakes come down further after that. I got fks155 on 85mm waisted skis and I did not have to bend them but the plastic thing had to go....
Dec 25 2007 9:02PM
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tjski
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hey i have those same skis...
Dec 25 2007 11:27PM
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