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Ok so i accidently ordered these bindings...

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sean2martin
Posts: 41 - Karma: 10
so i ordered a pair of line chronics today and just picked out a cheap pair of binding that looked fine in the picture and didnt say junior in the title.

so i call in my order to als ski barn. guys cool gets my order all done. but neither him nor i caught the fact that the description of the bindings say... "This binding is designed for high performance Junior skiers".

now im 6 feet tall, about 160 pounds.  am i fucked using these bindings and do i need to call tomorrow and have my order changed or wat? any chance theyll be fine? and i asked them to adjust them to a pair of boots i also ordered so if theres a problem hopefully theyll catch it while adjusting them
Dec 9 2007 10:22PM
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Silence
Posts: 16030 - Karma: 149
WHAT bindings are they?

brand/model etc..
Dec 9 2007 10:24PM
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sean2martin
Posts: 41 - Karma: 10
oh shit sorry thought i posted the link

http://www.untracked.com/p613c26b39-06_salomon_s910_fis_24_ski_bindings_w_brake_options.html
Dec 9 2007 10:25PM
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televback1
Posts: 386 - Karma: 11
dude defintly wont be fine ur weight is way more that any junior bindings can support. but that not a bad thing call back and get em to change it and it they dont refuse the payment on ur credit card and they will have to do it
Dec 9 2007 10:26PM
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dave...
Posts: 1688 - Karma: 126
how hard do you ride...if youre only 160...thats the limit i would say...but if youre hucking it, you may wann get something with a din higher than 10
Dec 9 2007 10:28PM
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JoshBishop
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I wouldn't try it. You're clearly not a junior and given the binding description should be using a solid binding. Shoot for the LOOK p18, they're bomb proof.
Dec 9 2007 10:28PM
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dave...
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yeah...if you cant change them, sell them on ebay or something
Dec 9 2007 10:29PM
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Silence
Posts: 16030 - Karma: 149
they probably aren't a bad binding (construction-wise), but as with most junior bindings, they often aren't designed to take a boot as big as yours, and with your height i'll assume you ahve fairly big feet..

In that regard, the toe/heel may not respond the way they should, and your boot may not sit in the bindings properly, irrespective of the binding quality..

This is all straight out of my head, and not necessarily fact, but personally, i would look at getting an adult binding
Dec 9 2007 10:29PM
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nopoles9
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get at least a 14 din binding.... 12 at minumum but you will evntually need a 14 din one at your weight
Dec 9 2007 10:36PM
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televback1
Posts: 386 - Karma: 11
ya defintly just like the others said those bindings are probally build for 140 hucking shit and 160 skiing only groomers
Dec 9 2007 10:39PM
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Silence
Posts: 16030 - Karma: 149
any shop chart would put him at a DIN of 8 or under at his weight assuming a level 3 skier code.

so no, he doesn't NEED at least a 14 din binding
Dec 9 2007 10:43PM
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B.Snow
Posts: 1859 - Karma: 92
if you are a beginner and ski mostly park then you should be ok if you crank them to the top notch, but if you are intermediate and ski hard then you should probably switch them up 
Dec 9 2007 10:52PM
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ShadyHillGroup
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hahaha idk why but this is the funniest post on NS, I just think of the short little asian kid from goonies saying it hahaha oh boy
Dec 9 2007 10:54PM
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Hctiws_iks
Posts: 2077 - Karma: 25
cranking to top notch is no good
i would def send em back
Dec 9 2007 10:59PM
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ElliottP
Posts: 606 - Karma: 12
wait.. so you accidentally bought bingings, thats even cooler than that other guys accidental mute grab.

haha, but yeah. dont ride junior bingings.
Dec 9 2007 11:03PM
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spwrozek
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Ya that was exactly what I was just going to say. 
Dec 9 2007 11:17PM
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KellyK
Posts: 1781 - Karma: 706
that's quite the predicament
Dec 9 2007 11:18PM
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spwrozek
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^^ unless you adhere to the your din should be half of the max rule thing.  Aka if you ride din 7 you need a 14 max, but then why do they go so high? it is a mystery
Dec 9 2007 11:20PM
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Silence
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thats pretty much redundant now - these days, most bindings are tested to be able to function at any level on the DIN range

in saying that, it's not good to run a 12 din binding at 12 forever, the spring could be put under undue stress
Dec 9 2007 11:23PM
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Smidt
Posts: 339 - Karma: 11
Thats a good post right there thanks for saying that i was just reading that other thread haha thanks for the laugh
Dec 9 2007 11:51PM
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ArmadaAR4
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^ haha yea touche....but as for this post...no you cant use them..the din OBVIOUSLY doesnt go high enough...but if you are in the northeast region come to Alpin Haus (www.alpinhaus.com) i work there and we got some decent deals on bindings...$79 for marker free titanium 12.0's
Dec 9 2007 11:55PM
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Silence
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the DIN OBVIOUSLY goes to 10, and he OBVIOUSLY needs a DIN of around 8..therefore the DIn is fine.

the din isn't the issue, its the type of binding and the size/weight/boot size that the binding is designed for.
Dec 9 2007 11:57PM
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[Toby]
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switch them im i weigh 135 and have my din at 9. I know its too high but the skis pop out perfectly at it, but there px12's so they kind of suck.
So you should change them incase you have to set a higher din for any reason.
Dec 10 2007 12:48AM
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pbandj
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i'm gunna laugh at all you asshats when you tear your acl's to shreds with your din up at 11 and 12, that shit isn't necessary, you're not fucking bode miller, i'm 160 and i leave my din at 8 and they don't release when they shouldn't bunch a bandwagon having mother fuckers, the size of your penis is not proportionate to your DIN so chill the fuck out turn it down a notch and play it safe, trust me being on crutches for 8 months is NOT fun
Dec 10 2007 12:54AM
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pbandj
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oh and change them cuse they aren't designed for a larger sized boot, you can have issues with toe height and forward pressure and shit, and then they will pre release no matter what your DIN is at
Dec 10 2007 12:56AM
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yeahitsdave
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does anyone listen to this man? hes speaking the truth, his word is gold.

trade the bindings in, but dont do it because of the din, thats fine, do it because of the boot size
Dec 10 2007 12:56AM
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pbandj
Posts: 5610 - Karma: 28
the irony of this statement almost made me throw up, the only decent binding marker makes is the duke and the jester and they haven't proven themselves yet, although from what i hear they're pretty sick
Dec 10 2007 12:59AM
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Powdered_Donuts
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whatever you do try to catch them before they get mounted your gonne need different bindings no sense in having extra holes already
Dec 10 2007 11:13AM
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nhjibber
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if any shop actually mounted those for you with and adult boot they should be put out of business anyway.
Dec 10 2007 11:46AM
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Microcosm
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I don't know.. I'm 5'8'' 130 and I'm pretty sure mine are set at 7 right now (by the shop). they go up to 14 just because that's the binding the shop had at the time and they were okay priced. it's really best not to have it too close to the max din anyway. if it's 10 max and he's at an 8 or possibly more then he should really consider a better binding. it's not about where it can go really, the spring inside will just get worn out more easily if it's in the higher range. I hope that made sense.. I just got back from school and my brain is tired.
Dec 10 2007 2:37PM
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Silence
Posts: 16030 - Karma: 149
A din of 8 would be absolutely fine on 3-10 din bindings..thats not why he should be changing the binding though.

Its a junior model, and in many ways that binding won't be set up to accommodate a boot that size. Thats why he should change it.


Dec 10 2007 3:35PM
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Microcosm
Posts: 4765 - Karma: 153
Fair enough.
Dec 10 2007 5:06PM
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sean2martin
Posts: 41 - Karma: 10
today i called als skibarn to trade the bindings and they say they recommend those bindings and that they have a sponsored rider who weighs 210 who uses those.  and that was when i was trying to spend more money with them, so i trust them.
Dec 10 2007 5:12PM
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Silence
Posts: 16030 - Karma: 149
^ hahahah 210 on a pair of junior bindings is FUCKING RIDICULOUS
Dec 10 2007 5:13PM
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sean2martin
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"
Hi Sean,
You will be more than fine on the S910 binding. We have a guy here that is
210lbs and is on the 910 FIS. The highest you will ever DIN out at is 7 and
that binding goes up to a 10.

Thanks Again,
Staff @ Al's
www.untracked.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sean Martin" <sean2martin@hotmail.com>
To: <prostaff@untracked.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 9:15 PM
Subject: order i placed today


> Form Submitted By: sean martin. <sean2martin@hotmail.com>
>
>
> i ordered these bindings today with a line chronics and size 10.5
> boots today...
>
> http://www.untracked.com/p613c26b39-06_salomon_s910_fis_24_ski_bindings_w_brake_options.html
>
> and when i ordered them, i didnt realize that it said they were "is
> designed for high performance Junior skiers". now i am 6 feet tall, 160
> pounds, and a size 10.5 boot, am i going to have problems and should i
> change my order?
>
>

"
Dec 10 2007 5:18PM
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Silence
Posts: 16030 - Karma: 149
This is copy/paste straight from the 2007/8 Salomon Procedure Manual

"Salomon bindings that can be
used with both junior and adult norm
boot soles are: TZ5, S305, C305,
Q300, S300, their mini equivalents,
earlier model indemnified equivalents,
and their various counter parts.
(The added width of an adult norm
boot sole somewhat limits the shock
absorption capability of these models
and they should not be used with a
boot sole longer than 304 mm. As
a result, it is recommended that an
aggressive junior skier with an adult
norm boot sole use a model designed
exclusively for adult norm boots.)"

So SOME junior bindings CAN be used with adult boots, but even those which can be, if the BSL is over 304mm an adult binding should be used

I'll assume your BSL is more than 304mm.
If you have a size 10.5 shoe, the BSL is likely to be 315+.

I'm sure you will be fine on the junior binding, as it's definitely high-end as far as junior bindings go, but i still think an adult binding is a better option given your boot size
Dec 10 2007 6:21PM
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