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eurotune2
Posts: 1450 - Karma: 10
Hey im 511 155 pounds and im trying to find a really stiff twin that i can still charge with, i used to race and i ski everyhting hard, im on prophet 80s right now but im looking to get something new, any suggestions?  the stiffer the better     o yea i ski the east so i dont really need any waist over  90mm, thanks
Nov 16 2007 9:38PM
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mnjib
Posts: 5592 - Karma: 357
fisher addict pro
Nov 16 2007 9:39PM
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mnjib
Posts: 5592 - Karma: 357
Fischer*
Nov 16 2007 9:40PM
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alaskakid
Posts: 5540 - Karma: 430
blends or chronics. pipecleaners if you don't hit rails
Nov 16 2007 9:47PM
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fnstoked
Posts: 802 - Karma: 27
the stiffest skis I've been on were line eric pollard pros from 04/05, they were the same as the chronic wides that came out the season after that. they were too stiff for my liking, but I was like 125lbs on the 166 cm length.

from your post, it seems like you want something for allmountain. other skis that i've heard were stiff that you can look into are..
K2 Public enemies
volkl karma
line chronic blends
line chronic wides
line chronics (i think they softened it this year though, so maybe the older years)
heard some head skis were rather stiff (mojo? or madtrix? i'm not sure)
4frnt msp (waist may exceed 90mm depending on the length you choose)
Nov 16 2007 9:52PM
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skinnylove
Posts: 6807 - Karma: 167
Head JO Pro? It's fairly thin (79 waist I think) but the stiffest and lightest park ski I have ever felt.
Nov 16 2007 10:00PM
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Aenigma
Posts: 11256 - Karma: 424
You might want to check out the Mojo 90's, those are pretty stiff for a twin.  What you should really do is go down to a shop and check out the skis for yourself, because everybody has a different idea of what constitutes a stiff ski.
Nov 16 2007 10:14PM
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MarkieR
Posts: 5337 - Karma: 98
line blend or 4frnt msp.  end of discussion.
Nov 16 2007 10:35PM
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Rooddss
Posts: 1420 - Karma: 14
I think the walls are pretty stiff, and the Touble makers are prety stiff as well
Nov 16 2007 10:43PM
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dje84
Posts: 118 - Karma: 10
yeah, I was messing around with the Line Blend in a shop last week and they are crazy stuff.  I was surprised.  It could be what your looking for. 
Nov 16 2007 10:51PM
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eurotune2
Posts: 1450 - Karma: 10
yea i was thinking about the Blend or the PE or the Wall...hard decisions        did the wall replace the karma?
Nov 16 2007 10:56PM
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troublemaker3
Posts: 1954 - Karma: 225
head mojo's , mine are good for charging hard all day
Nov 16 2007 10:57PM
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fnstoked
Posts: 802 - Karma: 27
the karma was basically split into two more specific skis this year i believe, with the wall and the bridge. walls are completely symmetrical, so it's more park oriented
Nov 16 2007 11:25PM
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Matty_C
Posts: 2598 - Karma: 236
well, not really no. sure those are two good "stiff" all mtn options for the kid, but by no means the only options. he also hasn't said how he skis or what he wants it for, so here's a list:

(more park specific -> more all mtn)

Fischer Addict Pro
Head J.O. Pro
Volkl Wall

K2 PE
4Frnt MSP
Line Blend

Head Mojo 90
Line prophet 90

if you really only ski park and groomed and hardly any pow, get one of the first 3, depending on preference.
if you ski a bit of everything (park, groomers, crud, pow) get one of the 2nd group depending on preference
if you ski mostly all mtn (groomers, crud, pow) then look at the last two.

good luck!

Nov 17 2007 1:13AM
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Crackaghan
Posts: 583 - Karma: 11
I have Chronics from 05/06 and after a year of skiing them they are still crazy stiff

way stiffer then my pipecleaners
(which arent that stiff actually)

fischer addict pros when i looked at them in shop they felt pretty stiff
Nov 17 2007 1:48AM
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wakeskier
Posts: 681 - Karma: 10
Take a look at the Elan Mo2 (if you can find 'em anymore) you can push them hard!

I just picked up a pair of 185's

Also the Scott P3 fit your description

I used to race and I ski east coast, I have both of the above and love them
Nov 17 2007 1:52AM
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djty111
Posts: 1103 - Karma: 93
the stiffest ski by far is the Stockli Stormrider DP Pro Skis...if you think you are bad ass ski the 201...bye the way it has a 34.3 TR....
Nov 17 2007 3:54AM
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XtRemE11
Posts: 5680 - Karma: 268
haha you can definatly still hit rails with pipecleaners
Nov 17 2007 4:35AM
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eurotune2
Posts: 1450 - Karma: 10
thanks or all the advice guys, im going to go inot my shop and check some out
Nov 17 2007 1:48PM
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uni-corn
Posts: 13846 - Karma: 651
no
Nov 17 2007 1:58PM
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skiP.E.I.
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the wall replaced the karma. pes are not all that stiff. I find they are actually pretty soft and easy to butter. (I'm 6' and 170 lbs) They also get chattery going really fast on crud found on the east coast. Karmas, when I demo'd them at the end of teh day at Sugarloaf in the spring were way better at speed and in choppy conditions than the PEs.
Nov 17 2007 2:17PM
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jhackbeez
Posts: 2136 - Karma: 258
you can hit rails on pipe cleaners.  its not a law not to.
Nov 17 2007 2:19PM
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brenker
Posts: 3188 - Karma: 71
k2 public enemy, line chronics, best bet
Nov 17 2007 2:30PM
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bigwhite.steeze
Posts: 8227 - Karma: 1,030
not really the same but i was flexing some in the store and they werent very stiff at all....
Nov 17 2007 2:35PM
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krl
Posts: 101 - Karma: 14
the base on the pipe cleaners is super fast, but they had to sacrifice something for that. their base isn't very tough and would get worn out pretty quick on rails
Nov 17 2007 2:43PM
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Carrphotography
Posts: 590 - Karma: 95
Surface Watch Life
Nov 17 2007 2:48PM
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