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j3Di
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I mainly listen to underground rap, and most of the MC's could rip any beat so much better than the "mainstream" rappers
The current state of rap that is considered "good" enough to be popular is ridiculous

Army of the Pharaohs is a good example because it is a collaboration of different underground artists.
If you like good hip-hop/rap, check it out.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=cASLfP6mkC0&feature=related





Nov 15 2007 12:56PM
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j3Di
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=v43-OvtUbfc&feature=related


Nov 15 2007 12:57PM
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STREETS
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yo thats pretty sick stuff !!!
Nov 15 2007 3:10PM
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fuzz.
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anyone from jedi mind tricks in there? sounds like it
Nov 15 2007 3:18PM
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user098123
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Should checkout the site Boxden Slumz sometime, if you post enough you can get access to their downloads section. It's like an albumbase for hip hop.
Nov 15 2007 3:24PM
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406
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congradulations....you listen to underground rap?
Nov 15 2007 3:32PM
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killabees
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mainstream hiphop isnt underground anymore not because they are good, its because they make catchy songs. look at lil jon
Nov 15 2007 3:35PM
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j3Di
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yeah, the album is produced by Jedi Mind.
Vinnie Paz (the lead MC from JMT) is on a lot of the tracks.

Check out the rest of the songs in the related videos list, most of them are sick.
Better yet, go buy the CD. support the underground artists.


Here is another good track. "Gun Ballad"
http://youtube.com/watch?v=izp9XnkgoNQ&feature=related
Nov 15 2007 4:41PM
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j3Di
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most of the "mainstream" rappers are no-talent jokes. (Lil Jon, Soulja Boy, 50 Cent, Young Joc, Hurricane Chris, etc., etc., etc..)
I'd like to hear Lil Jon rip a track like anyone in AOTP.. But, he cant. All he can contribute to music is "Yeeeaaahhh!".
Nov 15 2007 4:46PM
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mellifluous
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YES I AM SICK OF SOULJA BOY
Nov 15 2007 4:51PM
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TheQuailman
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This is pretty sick but like the only reason I don't listen to this stuff regurlarly is because its so much shit about killing and niggers and stuff which is just bullshit.  I like underground stuff but not about beating the shit outa ppl.
Nov 15 2007 4:52PM
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j3Di
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I was more or less trying to start a discussion about the current state of hip-hop.
Nov 15 2007 4:53PM
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j3Di
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Some rappers rap about that, but AOTP doesnt really do it that much.
Most of em used to be gang bangers so a lot of it is real talk (to a certain extent)
A lot of the lyrics have much deeper meaning if you think about it.
Nov 15 2007 4:59PM
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406
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vinnie paz is a fat piece of shit
Nov 15 2007 5:29PM
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KravtZ
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any other good underground rap out there?
Nov 15 2007 6:06PM
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artfullydodged
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hahahahahaha, vinnie is such a character
Nov 15 2007 6:08PM
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user098123
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There is a lot, you just have to know the right places to look. Lupe Fiasco is good, he's gaining alot of popularity lately, The Pharcyde, The Roots, Tribe, JMT, Jurassic 5, that's all I can think off of the top of my head right now.
Nov 15 2007 6:10PM
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j3Di
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So was Notorious B.I.G. (r.i.p.)
That doesn't change the fact that he can rip tracks.
Nov 15 2007 6:14PM
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j3Di
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without a doubt. There are so many talented rappers in the underground scene.
Here are a few examples:

A Tribe Called Quest
The Roots
Mos Def
MF Doom
Gift of Gab
Outerspace
Nas (he's more popular now)
Chief Kamachi
Jedi Mind Tricks
Ghost Face Killah
Celph Titled

Nov 15 2007 6:22PM
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Delhi11
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weezy kills it, i havent heard a track he hasnt torn apart in awhile
Nov 15 2007 6:23PM
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j3Di
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Do you mean Lil' Wayne?
There is another perfect example of a mainstream rapper that doesn't deserve to be so popular.
His flow sucks, his voice is annoying, and he is just in the game because of his dad's success.
Nov 15 2007 6:28PM
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Delhi11
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na honestly are you joking me? You feel cool because you dont follow mainstream trends. I hate rap, basically i hate Niggers (ignorant people)  but weezys flow is sick nasty. Just get high and his songs are so crazy, they never get old.

Nov 15 2007 6:30PM
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babujib
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false, hes so sick him and T.I. are the only mainstreams i like but oh wait T.I.s jailed so that makes just weezy
Nov 15 2007 6:31PM
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honeydip
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you're fuckin retarded for the one comment u made (the one about n*****, ur gonna get banned), but i have to agree that lil wayne is fucking sick as hell, i never get bored of any of his songs.
Nov 15 2007 6:40PM
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j3Di
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First of all, I don't "feel cool" because i "dont follow mainstream trends".
I was just trying to share some good music from the underground, and help people realize that there are much more talented rappers than what you hear on the radio, or see on MTV / BET.

Second of all.. someone please ban this stupid fuck, find out who's alias it is, and ban the main account too.
No one gives a shit that you "hate n*****s". Get your head out of your ass, you racist fuck.

As for Weezy's flow.. it is not "sick nasty", as you say. He's garbage.
Nov 15 2007 6:46PM
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ECGove
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word.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UEjubnAWY_I
Nov 15 2007 6:51PM
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burrows
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Wow people on NS need to chill. I have seen some of the biggest arguments over what kind of rap/hip-hop is good. Everyone has their own taste in music and just because you dont like it dosent mean it sucks. I listen to both mainstream and underground and they both have there ups and downs. Listen to what YOU like and stop trying to follow trends. 

Nov 15 2007 6:57PM
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burrows
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First off that song is hella old. I like it but im kinda tired of it now. Oh and if you think all of Weezy's tracks are good. Think again. I like him but sometimes he is terrible. Listen to crank dat weezy wee and if you tell me it is good you must not have any ears.
Nov 15 2007 7:01PM
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j3Di
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Agreed.
That song sucks, and so do all of his other songs. His voice is raspy and monotonous, with a weak flow.
Even on a sick beat, Weezy's music isn't good.
I guarantee if he wasn't Birdman's son, he wouldn't be a successful rapper.
Nov 15 2007 7:05PM
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burrows
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Oh and for everyone who thinks Birdman is Lil waynes real dad you obiviously know nothing about rap. Listen to Hustler Music or look it up if you dont belive me.
Nov 15 2007 7:10PM
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skibio5
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i lost my respect for vinnie paz after he changed his name from ikon the verbal hollogram.
stoupe's legit though

except for the jmt/gza collab. i can't get enough of gza's segment in that song
check it. bout halfway through http://youtube.com/watch?v=4eaTNnN1Ph8
Nov 15 2007 7:12PM
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skibio5
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http://http://youtube.com/watch?v=4eaTNnN1Ph8
Nov 15 2007 7:12PM
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user098123
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Lil Wayne is way more popular that he should be. I've been huge on the mainstream/underground stuff for a long time now. The reason he is so popular is not because his music is good, or his beats are good or anything like that. He is just one of the best presenters I have ever heard. He is really good at what he does, which is delivering his music. His voice is annoying, his lyrics and beats are mediocre at best, but he can present it so well he has alot of popularity. Regardless, I rarely listen to him, not much of a fan. There is infinitely better stuff out there.
Nov 15 2007 7:13PM
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j3Di
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Oh, sorry.
Either way, he's a no talent P.O.S. that found his way into the game through people that he knows.

Nov 15 2007 7:14PM
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j3Di
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bump. enjoy the music!
Nov 15 2007 9:05PM
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SlickRick.
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army of pharoahs is the best rapping that anyone can produce. all around their beats and lyrics are just amazing. bloody tears is one of the best songs ive ever heard
Nov 15 2007 9:29PM
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fillup
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SOOO good
thanks for positng this

Nov 15 2007 9:49PM
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Chummer3
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI8jfc7-tMU

It is better to download this song on limewire, this live version isnt as good
Nov 15 2007 9:53PM
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Chummer3
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http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRuRQ8udtok&feature=related

ahh here is a better version, disregard the link up top ^





Nov 15 2007 9:54PM
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Chummer3
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son of a bitch sorry for the posts, here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRuRQ8udtok&feature=related





Nov 15 2007 9:55PM
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[]Soul_Steeze[]
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yup!

AOTP is a keeper fo sho

i cant listen to AOTP or JMT for too long tho, it always puts me in a bad mood.....theyr so angry at the world


DL incognito!!! i could listen to him all day long 24/7 365....

Nov 15 2007 10:56PM
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406
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weezy peaked at tha carter II
Nov 15 2007 11:13PM
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j3Di
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+1.

bump. enjoy the music!
Nov 16 2007 4:22PM
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TheQuailman
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it doesnt matter whether you like him or not, but you honestly can't say lil wayne is a good rapper.  He really is a cocky fuck, no flow, no skill, annoying voice, etc. 

For me, I can't really listen to JMT or AOTP cuz its just to much violence.  This is the same reason why I don't like death metal.  When I listen to music I want songs that are more chill, and if they do talk about violent stuff, not in a way that tries to make them appear cool and tough.  Most rappers use the excuse of "I'm just mirroring what happened in my life."  This is ok, but what they really do is jsut use it to make themselves appear cooler.  I'm not gunna respect someone more if they snap peoples fingers in half or blow peoples brains out.
Nov 16 2007 5:55PM
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Delhi11
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smoke weed little boy, you'll learn.

Nov 28 2007 1:23AM
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MadSteezin
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I agree with you, mainstream rap is lame as fuck. For example, Crank That by Soulja Boy that nigger is so unintelligent that its funny. But somehow all of the retarded simple lyric rappers always make bank with their shitty ass songs.
Nov 28 2007 1:56AM
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Yauch
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mainstream music is all about mtv trying to get people obsessed with people like beyonce by marketing the fuck out of her. There is so much great music out there but mtv only covers a little bit of it. Thats why the mainstream sucks
Nov 28 2007 1:59AM
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Fish_Sandwich.
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AOTP is sooo good.  so is Jedi Mind Tricks and Immortal T.
Nov 28 2007 2:08AM
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burrows
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ya dude its so cool to tell 14 year olds to get involved with drugs and what type of music to listen to.
Nov 28 2007 9:55AM
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shibby
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Yo I'm kinda over JMT (especially Vinnie Paz); all that hate anger murder people rap just ain't Jedi.
Nov 28 2007 10:22AM
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andrewg
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i hate jedi mind tricks, and army of the pharoes. heres some good shit, alot of it is hiphop

Livin Legends
Little Brother
The Grouch
MF Door
Murs
Syko
Zion I
Dead Prez




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